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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Tinted Glass versus Car Color Scheme on: March 15, 2015, 06:50:05 AM
I was talking about the glass itself, rather than the windsheild banding.  My non repro windshield glass has a blue band across the top, not familiar with what color the repro glass uses for banding, or even if the originals were blue or green, its been so long since mine had its original windshield as it was busted when I bought mine back in 83.
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Steering Column Assembly Broadcast Codes on: March 10, 2015, 06:06:10 AM
Heres the tag on the top of my steering column, 1969 floor shift automatic with tilt.  Looks like KB  7808154

3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Tinted Glass versus Car Color Scheme on: March 10, 2015, 05:54:15 AM
You can barely tell the difference between original green tinted glass and clear glass unless you place them both on a white background next to each other.  Its not going to be all that noticeable once on the car, and there certainly wasn't any color restricition to ordering tinted glass on a Camaro from the factory.
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1 st. Camaro found and restored on: March 09, 2015, 08:05:45 PM
That would not be the correct rear door opening design for an early production 67 Camaro (unless they placed the vent there in the pilots and didn't bring them back till 68 production).  Early (or any) 67s don't have the astro vent louvers in the door frames, they had a solid faced panel with a telephone handset (for those old enough to remember dial phones) shape stamped into it.  Maybe the opening was cut into it by who ever converted it to a drag car, because later on in the video there's a picture of the passenger side quarter panel with the correct indentations?

Everyone seen this document about building the Pilots?
 
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1 st. Camaro found and restored on: March 04, 2015, 02:53:55 PM
Its normal practice to have them together at a GMAD plant like LA and Lordstown where the assembly process was combined into one long assembly line with a single paint and trim shop, but not in Norwood which had separate Fisher and Chevrolet Assembly plants on the same site.  The jig that the fenders are attached to is probably pretty similar to the Chevrolet side equipment.  I can't see where the hood and the upper and lower valances are from that picture though.  Take a look at the third car back in the video where they are spraying the Camaro, its a 4 door sedan,  Unless they were making 4 door Camaros at Norwood in 67 thats not the Norwood paint line (besides Norwood Used a Towveyor system to send the cars thru the paint line, they didn't hang them from an overhead conveyor system, LA and Lordstown did that.  I can get a screen capture from the video and show the car in question if need be. Of course the pilot car site never said it was Norwood we are just suppossed to see a Camaro being painted and believe it is somehow related to the pilot cars.  I don't know what the Plant 21 paint line where the pilot tubs were built looked like, but it seem like that picture would be more of a full blown assembly plant line, not a limited production facility, and you would think they would only be working on one line of car bodies at a time there.    Some people will try to say that this is a picture from the 66 production line at Norwood, but its a known fact that Detroit Plant 21 provided FULLY PAINTED AND FITTED OUT TUBS (finished exactly as if Fisher Norwood would have done if they built them on the line) to Chevrolet, so this picture cant be of the pilto cars being fitted into the assenbly line at Norwood (or LA or anywhere else) becasue they were already finished as far a Fisher was concerned when they were delivered. So, if this picture is not Plant 21, and not the LA paint line, then its Lordtown and thats not even a Camaro being painted, its a Firebird, but the picture is definately not taken at Norwood in either 66 or 67.

But I guess , does it really matter, the guy is showing some assembly plant pictures with a Camaro in it, so i guess whether its the correct plant or not only matters to freaks like us that want to know the name of the guy that tightened the lug nuts on the cars we now own, not to the 99.99999999% of the rest of the world that can imagine what it takes to get all those little parts together at the right time to assemble 1000 cars a day, every day and have most of them actually get built correctly, day in and day out..
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1 st. Camaro found and restored on: March 03, 2015, 02:56:53 PM
Forget the fact that none of them ever saw the inside of the main Norwood (or LA) assembly buildings, everything was handled in the pilot assembly building in the back corner of the plant near the railroad spur lines that delivered parts to Norwood.  If you look at the picture of the Norwood Facility, its just outside the picture frame in the lower left corner, next to the 3 story office building.   Don't know where the LA ones were finished, may even have been finished at Norwood and then delivered to LA).
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 67AM/FM question on: February 24, 2015, 09:06:35 PM
All Camaro rear deck speakers are grounded to the back of the seat support in the trunk.  Only the + wire(s) are run back to the speakers from the head units.
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: COPO fuel line size on: February 22, 2015, 09:20:50 AM
Same size as every other big block, or Z28 with a single fuel line. 3/8"
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Crayon Mark on Inner Heater Box on: February 21, 2015, 12:32:21 PM
The number on the black RS/Z was the same on the top of the fuel tank as the heaterbox (80) I assumed it was a sequencing number.

Would that be the same number on the fender extensions? Cause my extensions say "R6"? Where else would this number on heater box (24) be found?

Sure its not RG, for Ralley Green, the color of the car?
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Cosworth Vega on: January 30, 2015, 05:39:40 PM
If you want a project one heres one in Maine for 2400

http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/4849545750.html



I wouldn't mind having this one, if my yard didn't already look like a used car lot.



11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: very interesting picture on: January 26, 2015, 07:04:21 AM
those dealer installed trailer hitches that attached to the bumper, were only rated for 1000 lb trailers weight, 100 lb tonque weight.
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: original engine on: January 13, 2015, 11:43:56 AM
August 1st was a Tuesday in 1967.  1968 was a leap year, so instead of the following years date being one day off as usual, its 2 days off. (usually if august 1st one year was a tuesday, the following year it would be a Wednesday).  Calendar week of August 1st 1967 could be either an 07E build week (if one exists) or 08A depending on how Fisher dated the tags since the calendar month changed after the start of the work week.
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: More 69 Z/28 Ebay fraud on: January 06, 2015, 06:46:58 AM
Spoilers became a mandatory option on the Z28's in April, the D80 code was added to the cowl tag in May.  BUT the D80 cowl tag code is not present on every Z28 made after they became part of the package.  Don't know why, possibly if the order sheet indicated the spoiler option was selected the tag got the D80 code on the tag, even though all Z28s got spoilers after April anyway.  The D80 code was added to the cowl tag just after the Firebirds started being assembled at Norwood and probably has more to do with the Trans AMs than the Camaros, as they used the same code on their tag.  Possibly the "computers" that coded the options couldn't differentiate between a TA D80 option and a Camaro D80 option.
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Vin info on: December 29, 2014, 06:51:00 AM
It's the infamous yellow/yellow X77 Z28 with the Tonawanda T0225DZ stamped engine.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=178851

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=12950.0;topicseen
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Trim tag and engine stamp opinion on: December 28, 2014, 11:13:18 PM
Its got the same assembly stamp on it, because its the same car, how many 76B, 714 yellow houndstooth z28s could they make with a Tonawanda engine..  Its not legit.  Vin is 9N608302
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