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Originality / Re: 1969 camaro antenna
« on: December 28, 2005, 03:03:07 AM »
Oval retractable is the base AM only antenna. Fixed round antenna is used with the AM/FM radios. All bases are round.
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1052
Originality / Re: 69 X77 code Camaro Many fact questions.
« on: December 11, 2005, 03:44:46 PM »
Theres only one power steering gear box used in Camaros power steering was RPO N40 and consisted of a power steering pump and short steering arms on the wheels. It could be ordered on any camaro. RPO N44 added the longer pitman arm shaft on the steering gear box which gave you the 2 1/4 turn lock to lock steering. RPO N44 was an additional option over and above the RPO N40 power steering option.
RPO N44 Manual steering consisted of a different sector gear in the steering box than what was used for the standard manual steering box, in addition to the longer pitman arms and shorter steering arms.
RPO N44 Manual steering consisted of a different sector gear in the steering box than what was used for the standard manual steering box, in addition to the longer pitman arms and shorter steering arms.
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: VIN number matching trim tag
« on: December 08, 2005, 11:56:58 PM »
How bout if I post most of your body number and interior and exterior codes on the image I have. I probably grabbed it of of Ebay or someplace else public. Very few of the images I have have been submitted to the CRG as part of a cars documentation. I haven't even checked to see if its in our Database.
12437 NOR NOR3653XX
TR 727 71 71 PNT
X33D80
The way I store images is something like this tag_9N669031_NOR3653xx_X33D80, thats why I refered to having your VIN associated with the cowl tag. Poor english on my part.
edit: just checked the database, its not in there so the image must have come from Ebay.
12437 NOR NOR3653XX
TR 727 71 71 PNT
X33D80
The way I store images is something like this tag_9N669031_NOR3653xx_X33D80, thats why I refered to having your VIN associated with the cowl tag. Poor english on my part.
edit: just checked the database, its not in there so the image must have come from Ebay.
1054
Decoding/Numbers / Re: VIN number matching trim tag
« on: December 08, 2005, 05:31:55 PM »
I have an image of that tag from 3/06/2004 and it didn't have an 07D build date on it then. If it does now someones swapped the tag on it between now and then. That's why I want to see an image of the tag you have now. The tag image I have was of a real X33D80 tag with your VIN on it and was correct for the car.
1055
Decoding/Numbers / Re: VIN number matching trim tag
« on: December 08, 2005, 03:51:50 AM »
Got a picture of the tag?
I'm still thinking you have a typo in the tag info you posted.
I'm still thinking you have a typo in the tag info you posted.
1056
Decoding/Numbers / Re: VIN number matching trim tag
« on: December 07, 2005, 11:18:30 PM »
Check the numbers on the cowl tag again make sure thers no typos in either the info or the VIN.
1057
Decoding/Numbers / Re: Buick nut needs help with newly purchased 69 camaro
« on: November 27, 2005, 10:00:53 PM »
And you got this for the $250 it says on the for sale sign? The cars in better shape than my Pacecar was when I bought it int 83 and I still paid more for mine way back then. good deal.
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Buick nut needs help with newly purchased 69 camaro
« on: November 27, 2005, 03:38:12 PM »
Still have a crappy camera 
(at least looking at that image on my monitor). I take it the number on the build sheet really is 172093 and does match your cowl tag.
(at least looking at that image on my monitor). I take it the number on the build sheet really is 172093 and does match your cowl tag.
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Buick nut needs help with newly purchased 69 camaro
« on: November 27, 2005, 01:41:16 PM »
That's not your build sheet. The body number on the build sheet looks to be 172050, your trim tag says 172093. It probably belongs to a car made at the same time as yours, or perhaps was attached to an interior peice destined for that car that ended up in yours.
Can you read the VIN number in the third boxon the first row? Looks like it ends in 354, is that your VIN number?
Can you read the VIN number in the third boxon the first row? Looks like it ends in 354, is that your VIN number?
1060
Originality / Re: 1969 AM FM radio options
« on: November 25, 2005, 08:40:23 PM »
Single speaker in the rear well would indicate either an AM or AM/FM mono radio with the U80 auxilliary speaker option. No Z11 had a Yellow light stereo as they didn't start showing up until Late August or early September of 69, a full 4 to 4 1/2 months after the last Z11 was built.
1061
Originality / Re: Spiral Shocks
« on: November 25, 2005, 03:51:43 PM »
Don't often get to comment on Kurts postings (like never) but he really meant those codes are spring codes, not shock codes. 
1062
Originality / Re: 1969 AM FM radio options
« on: November 24, 2005, 01:06:24 PM »
That's probably a 1970 or later AM/FM mono radio, it will fit into a 69 dash fine but there are a couple of cosmetic and functional differences. 1) the radio dial numbers are white while the 69 ones were green, and the radio light is wired to be on only when the dash lights are one, while the 69s dial was lit whenever the radio was on, on was off when the rado was off. All 69 AM/FM radios did have the slanted fins on the output amplifiers, theoretically to clear the ductwork behind the radio, but the square finned ones will fit in there as well. 69 radios also had the eltrical and speaker connections on the right (drivers) side or the radio, not on the back side. All 69 AM/FM units (except the yellow light) have a round plug in the drivers side rear corner of the radio used to connect the unamplified radio signal to the output amps.
AM/FM mono radios are single channel output units that were attached only to the speaker in the dash like the AM unit. You could order RPO U80 Auxiliary speaker and get a second speaker on the passenger side rear deck with a fader knob under the radio tuning knob. It was still a mono setup and the fader just split the signal between two speakers.
The Bluelight AM/FM stereo radio, so named because it has a blue stereo lamp in the upper right corner of the dial, had a separate multiplex unit mounted up behind the glove box that was connected to the head unit in the dash with a 6 or 7 conductor wire and a circular plug with pins on it that looked like the bottom of an old vaccum tube. The head unit sent unamplified mono signals to the multiplex unit which converted it into a sort of stereo signal and then sent it back to the output amplifiers in the head unit and from there out to the 4 speakers. The bluelight setup was used from the beginning of the 69 model year to about August of 69 at which time the yellow light stereo unit came into probuction.
The yellow light stereo unit does not have the separate multiplex unit and has a yellow stereo lamp in the dial. It was probably made for the 70 model year and used in the later camaros when a blue light unit was not available.
AM/FM mono radios are single channel output units that were attached only to the speaker in the dash like the AM unit. You could order RPO U80 Auxiliary speaker and get a second speaker on the passenger side rear deck with a fader knob under the radio tuning knob. It was still a mono setup and the fader just split the signal between two speakers.
The Bluelight AM/FM stereo radio, so named because it has a blue stereo lamp in the upper right corner of the dial, had a separate multiplex unit mounted up behind the glove box that was connected to the head unit in the dash with a 6 or 7 conductor wire and a circular plug with pins on it that looked like the bottom of an old vaccum tube. The head unit sent unamplified mono signals to the multiplex unit which converted it into a sort of stereo signal and then sent it back to the output amplifiers in the head unit and from there out to the 4 speakers. The bluelight setup was used from the beginning of the 69 model year to about August of 69 at which time the yellow light stereo unit came into probuction.
The yellow light stereo unit does not have the separate multiplex unit and has a yellow stereo lamp in the dial. It was probably made for the 70 model year and used in the later camaros when a blue light unit was not available.
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Originality / Re: Spiral Shocks
« on: November 21, 2005, 11:53:35 AM »
Out of all the 68 broadcast sheets I have this is what I've found.
from body broadcast sheets
Late production L30/M20 with A/C Rear shock UN. (BBC)
L30/M20 rear shock UN (BBC)
L35/M40 rear shock TN (BBC)
Z28/M20 rear shock UN (BBC)
From chassis broadcast sheets
68 L35 front PW, rear TN - front springs are YQ rear are OH.
68 L22 L6 with powerglide front TG rear, TN - front springs are YL rear are BV.
68 L35 with TH400 trans, front PW, rear TN - front springs are YQ and rear are OH.
67 LF7 powerglide front LG, rear LH - front springs are YU rear are BX.
67 LF7 powerglide with A/c front LG, rear LH - front springs are YY, rear are YC.
from body broadcast sheets
Late production L30/M20 with A/C Rear shock UN. (BBC)
L30/M20 rear shock UN (BBC)
L35/M40 rear shock TN (BBC)
Z28/M20 rear shock UN (BBC)
From chassis broadcast sheets
68 L35 front PW, rear TN - front springs are YQ rear are OH.
68 L22 L6 with powerglide front TG rear, TN - front springs are YL rear are BV.
68 L35 with TH400 trans, front PW, rear TN - front springs are YQ and rear are OH.
67 LF7 powerglide front LG, rear LH - front springs are YU rear are BX.
67 LF7 powerglide with A/c front LG, rear LH - front springs are YY, rear are YC.
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Originality / Re: Spiral Shocks
« on: November 21, 2005, 03:15:00 AM »
Off a 68 L35 big block chassis broadcast sheet and a 69 Z28 chassis broadcast sheet. Front shocks in 68 are the same in both a 327/275 and the L35, but different shocks were used in 6 cylinder cars.
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Originality / Re: Spiral Shocks
« on: November 20, 2005, 11:26:03 PM »
1968 L35 equipped Camaro shock broadcast codes are PW front, TN rear. PS and UN are 69 Z28 shock broadcast codes.