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271  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Strange VIN on orphan 69 L78 (?) on: August 05, 2009, 11:44:36 AM
I never could figure out what the VIN was. 
272  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: black on tailpan on ss cars on: July 29, 2009, 10:58:42 AM
I don't think we can put the COPO and Yenko cars in the same category when considering tailpan paint.  I have seen original 69 COPO cars, I remember a silver one in particular, that had regular body color paint on the tailpan.

Does anyone have an SS car that they know the history of the car from Day 1 that it left the dealership?  I would put a lot of weight behind what they think.

I am not sure if anyone would want to do this, and I am not asking anyone to do it, but if you tailpan is glossy, it would be interesting to see what it looks like without any wax on it.

273  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: black on tailpan on ss cars on: July 28, 2009, 10:31:33 AM
I guess it is possible there could have been some variance, but ALL of the original ones I remember in the late 60s and early 70s (not the ones 40 years old that have been waxed) were not shiny.  Satin is what I would call them.

Talked to a friend who was a body and paint man for over 40 years and he said they were satin.  He said there were several different blends that were used, but there were not what you would call a regular gloss paint.  They did have to add flattening agents to the paint.  That information was provided to the paint reps from the factory.  Now I guess that could explain why there is some variance.

In my opinion, Jim Mattison would be considered an expert and his opinion was stated earlier in this thread.

Buddy and RamAirDave, thanks for the images of the paint in the trunk area. 
274  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: black on tailpan on ss cars on: July 27, 2009, 10:57:16 AM
So "satin black" it is.  Right?
275  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Strange VIN on orphan 69 L78 (?) on: July 27, 2009, 10:50:53 AM
If you could send me a picture of that area with the VIN stamp I would like to see it too.

bcmiller@creighton.edu
276  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Strange VIN on orphan 69 L78 (?) on: July 26, 2009, 09:22:42 PM
Sometimes you don't get a good stamping because of the roughness of the block surface.
277  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Strange VIN on orphan 69 L78 (?) on: July 26, 2009, 09:21:41 PM
Looks like it could be OK.

Can you make it all out?  Is is something like 19L555192?

What is the date code on the front pad?

This is a 4 bolt main block with the large oil galley holes, right?
278  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1968 - Orphans / Re: 8N400629 Muncie M22 Transmission on: July 26, 2009, 08:19:13 PM
Date code of P8C05c is too early for the C to indicate an M22.

I have been trying to research the small c at the end of the date code on 1968 Muncies.
Have not been able to find much out yet.  Looking for someone that worked at the
plant at that time to ask some questions about the date stamping.
279  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: black on tailpan on ss cars on: July 25, 2009, 08:57:25 PM
Buddy,

Thanks for the pictures.  Looks like I did it almost right.  I stopped at the center of the weather strip channel.  I had the weather strip out.  Looks like I should have painted it more. I will have to fix that.

What ever happened to that car?  Hopefully it is still around.   
280  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: black on tailpan on ss cars on: July 25, 2009, 07:40:55 PM
I just repainted the tail panel on my car satin black (along with the hood - did the hood to have a look different than everybody else).  I am glad I used satin.  I did it that way because all of the SS cars that I remember were satin.

One question though.  Are there any diagrams as to where the black stopped?  I stopped about the center of the bumper (had the bumper off) on the bottom, but was not sure in the trunk area.  I went at about a 45 degree angle toward the trunk opening at the corners and stopped in the weather strip channel. 

281  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Rear axle codes on: July 23, 2009, 01:52:40 PM
Is there a casting date anywhere on the center housing? 
282  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: correct shifter for 1969 on: July 23, 2009, 08:48:45 AM
The 3138 shifter body was used for several OEM applications.

I took a look at that add.  I think I would give them a call and ask the questions.  It does look
like it has the correct style handle (bayonet style handle - not bolt on). 

They might have listed the wrong number in the add (they have 3128 and original was 3138)
or maybe that is just the number they are using now.   Sorry, I don't have more answers.
283  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Rear axle codes on: July 23, 2009, 06:44:19 AM
I think they need to do some more cleaning and use a wire brush.  I don't see that code in
any of the documentation that I have collected. The format of the stamped code should look like

CB G 112 1 E
(CB = Ratio, G = Plant, 112 = 112th day of year, 1 = shift, E = Positraction Source)
284  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: correct shifter for 1969 on: July 22, 2009, 06:50:26 AM
Rich,

Check this link and scroll down to the transmission section.
http://www.camaros.org/trans.shtml#4speed

I believe the OEM shifter body is 3138 and it used a 5325 round handle.

I believe 391 7438 is the number of the current aftermarkt Hurst Competition Plus for a 69 Camaro.
This is the number for use with and without a console.
285  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 396/375 or ? on: July 21, 2009, 05:26:00 PM
What ever happened?  What is the guy's name or did he decide to give you your money back?
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