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Research Topics & Reports / Re: Original 67-69 Camaro driveshafts - information requested about your car
« on: April 14, 2011, 08:13:35 PM »
Mike, yes tough to read. Thanks anyway and good luck on your restoration.
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Research Topics & Reports / Re: Original 67-69 Camaro driveshafts - information requested about your car
« on: April 13, 2011, 03:28:18 PM »
Thanks Mike.
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Research Topics & Reports / Re: Original 67-69 Camaro driveshafts - information requested about your car
« on: April 12, 2011, 05:14:19 PM »
Chick, what car was that driveshaft from? Your 68 Z28?
If so can you post the length from center of u joint to center of u joint. Thanks.
If so can you post the length from center of u joint to center of u joint. Thanks.
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Research Topics & Reports / Re: Original 67-69 Camaro driveshafts - information requested about your car
« on: April 12, 2011, 05:12:28 PM »
MyRed67 - sorry I could not find your name isted - thanks for that information. It goes along with what the length is supposed to be for 1967 Camaros with 6 cylinder and small block V8 - 49.96 inches. The information on the u bolts helps too. At this point, just started a database on the stripe colors. If you could, list the color of the stripes in order from front to back. I can't tell from the picture if the orange or white is toward the front. If you find the casting number, please post that too. Thanks.
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Research Topics & Reports / Re: Original 67-69 Camaro driveshafts - information requested about your car
« on: April 07, 2011, 06:47:02 AM »
Is ANYBODY out there willing to measure your original driveshaft and provide that information?
Especially interested in Big Block cars...manual trans or TH400. Thanks.
Especially interested in Big Block cars...manual trans or TH400. Thanks.
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Research Topics & Reports / Re: Original 67-69 Camaro driveshafts - information requested about your car
« on: March 20, 2011, 08:46:47 PM »
Rich,
Thanks for those links. I had read most of them previously. The offset question is probably not one that can be easily answered, but I thought I would ask people who had originals to try to figure this out.
Maybe I should just take this one step at a time, but I figured if people were going to take the time to look at what they had it might be easiest to just get all the iinformation at once.
So for now...what I think I have figured out is the following for lengths. This is from AMA specs and some other Chevrolet sources. For 67 and 68 cars with the 396, different frame mounts for the engine were used which pulled the engine forward about 1/2 to 3/4 inch. Also note the holes for the 396 crossmember for use with a manual transmission had the transmission mounting holes about 3/4 inch forward. The PG, TH350, 3 speed manual and 4 speed manual transmissions are all close to 27 5/8 or 27 3/4 inches long (including bellhousing length). But the TH400 is slightly longer - around 28 1/4 inches.
67 and 68 Camaros used two different lengths. 49.96 inches for all applications except the 396 with manual trans which was 50.46 inches.
69 Camaros all used the same length, 49.56 inches. This appears to be due to the frame mounts all being the same for the big blocks and small blocks. Although I can't find anything listed, it seems the TH400 driveshaft should be slightly shorter.
So that is why I am looking for actual measurements, to confirm these numbers. If anyone has different information, please post it and list your source.
Bryon
Thanks for those links. I had read most of them previously. The offset question is probably not one that can be easily answered, but I thought I would ask people who had originals to try to figure this out.
Maybe I should just take this one step at a time, but I figured if people were going to take the time to look at what they had it might be easiest to just get all the iinformation at once.
So for now...what I think I have figured out is the following for lengths. This is from AMA specs and some other Chevrolet sources. For 67 and 68 cars with the 396, different frame mounts for the engine were used which pulled the engine forward about 1/2 to 3/4 inch. Also note the holes for the 396 crossmember for use with a manual transmission had the transmission mounting holes about 3/4 inch forward. The PG, TH350, 3 speed manual and 4 speed manual transmissions are all close to 27 5/8 or 27 3/4 inches long (including bellhousing length). But the TH400 is slightly longer - around 28 1/4 inches.
67 and 68 Camaros used two different lengths. 49.96 inches for all applications except the 396 with manual trans which was 50.46 inches.
69 Camaros all used the same length, 49.56 inches. This appears to be due to the frame mounts all being the same for the big blocks and small blocks. Although I can't find anything listed, it seems the TH400 driveshaft should be slightly shorter.
So that is why I am looking for actual measurements, to confirm these numbers. If anyone has different information, please post it and list your source.
Bryon
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Research Topics & Reports / Original 67-69 Camaro driveshafts - information requested about your car
« on: March 16, 2011, 05:12:18 PM »
Several people are working on putting together original driveshaft information for 67-69 Camaros. Items of most interest at this point are below.
If you have an original driveshaft and would be willing to post information about your car, it would be very much appreciated. Here is what to include...
Year of car
Norwood or Los Angeles car
Month and week of vehicle assembly
Engine
Transmission
Driveshaft length (measured center of u joint to center of u joint)
Type of attachment to pinion yoke. There are two types: U bolts and the strap and bolts method.
Code stamped on front of passenger side axle tube.
Paint stripes and a picture (if possible)
Position of the u-joint flanges on each end. Some cars were "in-line" and others were "clocked" about 30 degrees off from each other
Post in this thread if you want. If you would rather not post, but still contribute, send an email to me please. Thanks.
Bryon
*** Modified 3/18/2014 to remove casting number. Most don't have it and it is a forging number on the yoke. ***
If you have an original driveshaft and would be willing to post information about your car, it would be very much appreciated. Here is what to include...
Year of car
Norwood or Los Angeles car
Month and week of vehicle assembly
Engine
Transmission
Driveshaft length (measured center of u joint to center of u joint)
Type of attachment to pinion yoke. There are two types: U bolts and the strap and bolts method.
Code stamped on front of passenger side axle tube.
Paint stripes and a picture (if possible)
Position of the u-joint flanges on each end. Some cars were "in-line" and others were "clocked" about 30 degrees off from each other
Post in this thread if you want. If you would rather not post, but still contribute, send an email to me please. Thanks.
Bryon
*** Modified 3/18/2014 to remove casting number. Most don't have it and it is a forging number on the yoke. ***
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1969 - Orphans / 19N619915 M20 on ebay
« on: January 21, 2011, 07:36:56 PM »
19N619915 - it looks like your M20 is on ebay at this time.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Muncie-M-21-Transmission-/160535214714
Sorry if this was already posted. I looked but did not see anything.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Muncie-M-21-Transmission-/160535214714
Sorry if this was already posted. I looked but did not see anything.
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1969 - Orphans / Re: 19N658191 DZ 302 on eBay
« on: January 15, 2011, 05:21:11 PM »
Buy it now price is 6500 but will also let you submit an offer. That is cheap if you own the car. If not, probably still way too high.
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1969 - Orphans / 19N669364 M22 trans
« on: December 14, 2010, 02:30:15 AM »
19N669364
I have your M22 case. Assembly date is P9A24C. I know that is quite a difference in date from transmission assembly to vehicle assembly but stamp appears genuine.
I have your M22 case. Assembly date is P9A24C. I know that is quite a difference in date from transmission assembly to vehicle assembly but stamp appears genuine.
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1968 - Orphans / 18N352037 Muncie
« on: August 07, 2010, 05:55:53 PM »
Your Muncie is on ebay at this time.
Sorry if this one is already listed. I did a quick search and did not see it.
Item number: 360287602558
Sorry if this one is already listed. I did a quick search and did not see it.
Item number: 360287602558
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1968 - Orphans / 18L332291 V022IM0
« on: August 04, 2010, 06:54:43 PM »
Looks like your engine is on ebay.
Sorry if this was already posted. I searched and did not find anything listed for this partial VIN.
18L332291 V022IM0
Item number: 220648237977
Sorry if this was already posted. I searched and did not find anything listed for this partial VIN.
18L332291 V022IM0
Item number: 220648237977
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General Discussion / Re: RE: 1969 Z28 Camaro with Fake Cowl Tag, 9N607652
« on: July 10, 2010, 04:50:55 PM »
I agree 100 percent on that.
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1968 - Orphans / 8N404816 POP
« on: July 07, 2010, 07:04:35 PM »
If this is your car, contact me. I have your Protect-o-Plate in the original book. Has dealer stamped information in the back.
8N404816
8N404816
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Numbers on 69 Muncie 4 speed linkage
« on: April 26, 2010, 04:40:42 PM »
It appears the 0073 rod I have is the 3-4 rod for 68 Camaro small block. Not sure on the others. Might be for Impala or Chevelle.
Looks like for 68 the rods are
Small block Rods 1&2 3930071 3&4 3930073 Reverse 3930075
Big block Rods 1&2 3930063 3&4 3930065 Reverse 3930067
Looks like for 68 the rods are
Small block Rods 1&2 3930071 3&4 3930073 Reverse 3930075
Big block Rods 1&2 3930063 3&4 3930065 Reverse 3930067