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151  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: finding original owner on: April 15, 2007, 08:45:46 PM
If the car was ever in North Carolina you can get a lot of DMV information about the car. The form is online (605 is the number) and mail it in with $1.00. I got all owners and titles for my car back to 1976 when it shows the car was purchased by a dealer at Clanton Auto Auction in South Carolina. Next I find what South Carolina will do, they have something on there website about freedom of information act.
152  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 396 rear engine lift bracket on: April 14, 2007, 04:31:45 AM
Thank you, the photot is very helpful. I don't have one like that. All the ones I have collected over the years must be from small blocks. I will see what I can find in Charlotte today.
153  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / 396 rear engine lift bracket on: April 13, 2007, 07:31:48 PM
Does anyone have a photo of the correct rear engine lift bracket for a 1969 396. I have seen photos of the front bracket and the type which bolts under two of the intake bolts is used. Is the rear the same?
154  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Dual Fuel Lines on: March 27, 2007, 08:02:07 PM
It has both the floor bracket and the bracket on the outside of the left rear frame rail.
155  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Dual Fuel Lines on: March 26, 2007, 08:32:35 PM
I saw the one on the floor. I will look for the one on the frame rail.
156  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Dual Fuel Lines on: March 26, 2007, 05:13:53 AM
Yesterday I was able to get the car out with some better light. It appears the car did have dual fuel lines at one time. Some of the fuel line brackets obviously have extra room for the small return line. The bolts and clips have been out because a few clamps were not repositioned in the same spot, a mark was left from the original position on the undercoating/dirt. Also one small clip is near the rear where the small line was attached directly to the larger line.

The sending unit was also removed from the tank at some time previously. The retainer ring is really banged up.

It also has the bracket attcahed to the rear floor for dual exhaust.

I could not make out any crayon marks behind the rear seat. It has what appears to be a lot of glue for the rear package shelf cover. Much more glue that I have seen in other photos.

Thanks for all the great comments. I learned a lot.
157  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / VIN in the database? on: March 19, 2007, 07:27:21 PM
I found the VINs for a couple of cars I previously owned. Anything in the database? 123479N629100 and 124379N701457

I am new to this. Can you tell me a little more about the database?
158  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Dual Fuel Lines on: March 19, 2007, 07:18:01 PM
The VIN on the cowl matches. I have never had the heat box out.

It has a single line sending unit also. The car did have the rear tail light panel replaced, this is the only panel that was changed before I owned it. I think it may be possible that the accident that caused this panel to be replaced could have also resulted in tank filler neck damage. It could have been replaced with one from a junk yard.
159  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Dual Fuel Lines on: March 18, 2007, 08:50:45 PM
I changed to resolution on the camera to the minimum file size. Here are photos of the numbers.
160  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Dual Fuel Lines on: March 18, 2007, 07:28:04 PM
I could not attach them because of the file size limit of 128K. Any other ideas?
161  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Dual Fuel Lines on: March 18, 2007, 06:50:15 PM
I have been out of Town for a couple of days. Thanks for all the information. I did not intend to create a debate.

What Mark has said makes a lot of sense to me. I originally thought this may have been some type of glitch at the factory. Reading through the assembly process and knowing the subframe and engine come late in the process it would really be impossible to get this mixed up. It would have forced a manual change and there would have not been factory parts available to connect a quadrajet with a single line. So I have my answer to the original question. I will continue to look for evidence the fuel line was changed next time I get the car up so I can look very closely.

There is seems to be a question about my car and I would like to find an answer.

I still believe I have a big block RS/SS car but I am not certain the right engine combination. Here is a link to photos of the engine stamped codes. I have not changed them. I have known the car since 1979 and owned the car since 1980. If the engine was changed, it was prior to that time.            Do these appear to be correct or restamped?

I think it is a big block car for a variety of reasons. Not only do the stamped dates match for the car, the cast date codes put it in the right time frame. Everything else about the car appears to be correct. It has a big block heater core, tach, gauges console, disc power brakes, multileaf and 12 bolt. The rear end was very dirty at the stamp and if some restamped that it was a long time ago. The date code is right on the rear end. The car also had the hockey stripe and black rocker panels hidden under the repainted surface which I found in the 1980s. This fuel line is the only thing that raised a question for me. I don't ever plan to sell the car so I am not trying to create a clone, I just want to determine the original origin of everything.

I need to check for the exhaust frame bracket sometime soon.

I don't know what else from the cowl tag would help as it has no X codes. But here is the rest awatway. 12A,ST69, 12437NOR193935BDY,TR715,53 53 PT. The VIN is 124379N553662.

I appreciate the feedback on things like brake brackets that I was not aware of to narrow down the possibilities.
162  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Dual Fuel Lines on: March 13, 2007, 07:59:09 PM
Thanks Mark.

First to answer the remaining questions from the prior post. I checked a few things tonight. The rear axle BR 1130G1 it has an E below. BR so that is a 3.07 positive traction 12 bolt, all checks. 1130 November 30th which also seems to check to the date of my car. G=Detroit, 1=first shift and E=Eaton positive traction unit. The front brake line brackets are on top of the frame.

I also looked at the heater core and verified the hose exit location for a big block.

Yes, it is a 12A Norwood car. I will need to remove the back seat and check for x codes, I don't recall anything like that from previous times the seat was out.
163  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Dual Fuel Lines on: March 12, 2007, 10:07:35 PM
I assume this is the date stamped on the right front. It reads T1130TG which would be Nov. 30 1968? The block date cast date code is K 1 8. I am not certain the heads are original as they have a date code of K 29 8. Would it be odd for the engine to be assembled the following day? I am very new to these codes and only know what I see on CRG. The transmission was replaced in 1980 when I purchased the car, my dad later discarded it. No one seemed to mind changing anything else from original so I would be suprised it someone went to the effort of restamping the VIN on the block. The rear axle ratio was 3.07:1 the guy I brought the car from gave me the original ring and pinion. It has 4.11:1 right now. I can't find the rear end codes written down anywhere, I will have to get it from the car later. I have never paid attention to the location of the brake line bracket, I will check that also. Thanks.
164  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Dual Fuel Lines on: March 12, 2007, 07:43:50 PM
Is there a reason someone would change the fuel line and tank sending unit? The car was modified significantly in the 1970's with aftermarket aluminum intake, headers, holley carb., etc.. It seems like a lot of trouble to go to remove the lines and replace them with an original looking single line. Everything else appears valid including JG engine code and block casting # 3955272. Any other thoughts?
165  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Dual Fuel Lines on: March 11, 2007, 08:22:53 PM
Do any 1969 L35 (396, 325 hp) have a single fuel line? I believe I have a 1969 RS/SS and everything seems to check out except the lack of dual fuel lines. It does not have any evidence of dual lines at the sender or along the attachment points under the body.

Also this is great site with a lot of information. I greatly appreciate all the hard work that goes into develping and maintaining it.
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