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211  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Correct locaton of proportionong valve on sub frame on: June 06, 2008, 12:39:33 AM
Does anyone know of a source for the soft goods for owner rebuild of the subframe mounted:
"pressure regulating valve" or "proportioning valve" by whatever name,,,
1968 disc brake car w/ drivers side subframe mounted in-line pressure <do-hickey>

I have unmounted mine and removed the hex head cap screw and 1 rubber "V"-grooved cup seal and washer, to the point of a external snap ring and am not sure what lies beneath,,,,Lots of 'gunk' so I was interested in further disassy and cleaning, just was checking if others have dug into this component and sources for the soft goods needed to PROPERLY rebuild it, otherwise its just a careful cleaning and reassembly,,,


212  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 RS/SS Camaro 396? on: June 03, 2008, 02:17:09 PM
Post a DETAILED picture of the Fuel line termination and retension (Clips style and location) in the saddle of the subframe.
If it is untouched (Hacked) it provides a BB specific clue,,,one of many
Above link is great.

213  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Z28 leaf spring finish/Plastic pads on: May 25, 2008, 11:15:28 PM
Has anybody had any luck finding the anti-squeek pads ? Eaton detroit spring said they don't have them and can't get them .Steve .

When I "REBUILT" [Disasy, Blast, Prime, Paint, New Center bolt, New pads, Press in new bushing, & Assemble], my original 5 leaf (68) springs. I found that I had to search for local spring shops and encountered sourcing issues with the black plastic 'PADS'. Eventually found a shop in seattle that had some laying around 0.50$ each.

My advise is to ask around your area shops and see if they have any.

I was under the impression they were avail as part of the Camaro rest vendor rebuild Kits for 50$ a few years back?

214  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Unusual 69 paint inspection marks - are these correct? on: May 25, 2008, 10:40:29 PM
first time you washed your car that stuff was gone.  as a former chevrolet dealer i know this as fact.

I would counter that when I cleaned up the front end and rear end on my 1968 ssrs 396/325 80K mile car I found that years of grease, road dirt, oil and dealer undercoating preserved tons of Factory (VN) applied graffiti.

Interesting Examples found:
Green dabs on rear axle centers.
Yellow dabs on the front disk brake wheel stud ends
White and Orange on the spindles.
Yellow on the tie rod sleeves
Large orange dab on the rear axel center housing
Drive line stripes

Now do not get me wrong,,, I have made a TON of mistakes on my car over the years and am slow to correct.
I do enjoy the details!

215  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 69 decklid emblem holes on: April 19, 2008, 08:58:06 PM
Z11 (04C) VN build
2 sets.

216  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 bumper jack on: April 07, 2008, 08:17:49 PM

Jim, that’s apparently the correct sticker for a 68 but IMO it's only correct for cars built after that date.  I know my car had the 3909124; I took a picture of the original Thank God!  I would say that would be the correct one for your car also.  Thanks for the info.


Do they repop the instruction sheet (coupe) #  3909124?
217  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 bumper jack on: April 06, 2008, 11:03:32 PM
I think (Positive) my load rest is orig.

Now the jack is 36" long & Square and does not appear as your sample 1 or 2 so I do not think what I have is F body, btw no stamped rivets either. (Form Fit and function similar)

The jacking instructions are REPOP circa 1987 classic Camaro ( I painted my car that year and likely desrtoyed the orig) and applied the repop 3949516 3-6-68 version (My Car is a (E) 5th week of DEC 1967 build) I did not find this number in the 68 AIM?

218  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 bumper jack on: April 06, 2008, 02:27:57 PM
My orig load rest is stamped on the 'back' not the face
face = mating surface with the bumper.


your stampings look comparable, they might have not been very concered at the time of manufacture and stamped them both ways.

219  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 exhaust tips on: March 28, 2008, 11:11:24 PM
I am partial to the 2 & 1/4 Set up that Gardner Sells.

VERY nice, and  worth every cent, if it suits you goals for the car.

Will attach pic.

Coating is a nice treat (aluminized pipe)

Please excuse the FLAP (MUD) Used as temp protection during Friday Test and Tune track day.

220  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 proportining valve?? on: March 28, 2008, 10:40:54 PM
My experiance was in 1985. (1968 SS w/ discs)
Going to a stop and ruptured the dry rotted flex line on the right front disc,,,Pedal went soft and car was sluggish to stop.
Idiot brake light lit-up like a xmas tree.
Pull over to investigate, found fluid leak.
The 'loss' of pressure in (The front hydraulic brake circuit) in relation to the intact rear circuit, pushes (axially) a tapered piston inside the distribution block towards the offending (failed) circuits side. The cone tapered center section of the piston contacts a insulated pin (W/ corresponding Brown wire with boot from your front harness) that effectively completes a ground source for the BRAKE light on the dash, there by iluminating the Brake light. I think this electrical circuit is in parrallel with the foot operated parking brake switch also.

Drained front circuit (Hyd), Purchased New Hose, installed, and removed the switch from the dist block and used a small screw driver to re-center the piston and installed the switch and wire, topped the fluid and blead the system and was back in control of braking.

I belive this system is described nicely in the service manuals also.

221  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 69 bb DriveShaft Paint Stripes on: February 03, 2008, 06:45:21 PM
At the risk of getting off track to the original request.
I will offer the following photo:

Super Sport / Ralley Sport
Conv- LOS (Z11) w/ Tank Sheet (Partial) (Reads 5Z11AA) Block 230 "PROP SHAFT" destroyed by undercoating, sheet torn.
Note the Yellow on the yoke end.

222  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 camaro hood insulation question on: February 03, 2008, 04:33:52 PM
Only one vendor makes the molded pad and it's not very good.  As a matter of fact, it's pretty poor.  Too thin and the clips pop out for starters.  #$@%$&*&%^*!!!  The flat molded areas are not in the true postition.  When used on a 1968 Camaro with 396 engine, the smog pulley digs into the hood pad.........nice.  I tell people to buy the old pad that is not molded but looks more correct.  I actually called the vendor who makes these a couple of years ago and told them about the problems and they didn't seem interested in correcting the issues.


I agree! I purchased a Molded pad in 2001, & you pay a premium and  incur high shipping costs due to construction(No other option). When installed on my 68 w/born with 396 parts, the pad rubs the original air cleaner lid. This scratches the chrome. As a concerned customer and understanding the 'Your the only one with a problem' attitude of mfr's & vendors I felt like doing a little research on these pads. I had long trashed the original and installed the $35 resto pads that were the only choice in the 1980's. What I found as a reference was the Old issue of Camaro Enthusiast that had a series of great 1967 Camaro reference (Read ORIGINAL) photos. On page 5 they have a shot of an original Hood insulation pad. It was clear and you could make out details and depressions and spacial relationships of the contours & indentations.
The reproduction missed the air-cleaner recess by about 1/2" on the radius. Keeping in mind the Big block offset to the pass side. I assume the SB cars do not have this issue?,,,,,Therfore the rubbing occurs.
I prepared an bunch of documentation and sent the feedback to (Manufacture) R.E.M. Auto in PA.
Nothing but silence,,,,
Well my Fix is to Run a $25 Tiawann Lid and let her rip (I drvie mine & it does have its fair share of 1980's resto errors)and swap to the orig lid at a show.

No problems at all with there cowl ind hood version on my pace car,,,,he, he

Not a bash here,,,just a little feedback.

223  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: rain gutter strips? on: January 12, 2008, 09:53:25 PM
I will concur that from what I can remember when I farmed out a vinyl roof replacment by a vendor they removed some long flimsey gutter plastic retainers, of course they did not come out intact.
Interesting that there was a tool for installation.
I think most fabric hard tops that have been replaced are gluse and then a silicone product (bead) ran in the gutter to secure smooth out the termination of the fabric.

1968 12E


224  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Good Photos of 1969 SS350 Engine? on: December 02, 2007, 12:32:51 AM

Top view with my hood removed. I think this was 1998 or 1996.

225  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Good Photos of 1969 SS350 Engine? on: December 02, 2007, 12:28:46 AM

69 350/300 TH350 LOS pace car.

Please forgive some of the details items I have missed & or/ restored incorrectly.
long term project.

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