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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Z28 carb fuel line bracket. on: Today at 12:07:42 AM
My 06A says Stamp Rite
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor on: April 23, 2014, 01:29:56 PM
Chick, Does it have the 4 clip trim rings? or the Serrated/finger type?
I looked at the two on the left side of the car Mike and they both were the serrated finger type.

Thanks Chick, That goes along with the possability of later production finger type replacing the 4 clip style. My 06A has clips BTW.

Looking at the picture of the engine compartment you can see the original GM Decal on the side of the air cleaner, I'm pretty sure it is original, a buddy has a 20,000 mile 10B 69 Z28 and it has the cowl air cleaner with the grooved or ridged bottom.

No doubt in my mind it is a original ZL2 car, as the cowl solenoid and wiring are exactly the same as my car.

Thanks for posting the pictures, what a Time Capsule!!!!
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor on: April 23, 2014, 02:00:14 AM
Chick, Does it have the 4 clip trim rings? or the Serated/finger type?
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Block crayon marks on: April 22, 2014, 05:34:47 PM
No car, it was out of a rolled 6,000 mile 70 Z28 that was wrecked around 70-71.
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Block crayon marks on: April 22, 2014, 05:08:58 PM
1970 6,000 mile LT1
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor on: April 21, 2014, 11:07:25 PM
Nice work Chick, would love to see more detailed photos of this important find (and who better to take them!).  Thought it was interesting to see the cowl air cleaner is a ridged bottom version.  There has been much debate if any of the ridged bottom actually made it into late production cars (vs service part) or if they were all flat bottomed.  I think this benchmark

Unless I've missed some proof that the cowl induction system was factory original on this car, that is an assumption re the 'ridged bottom'...  Just as the owner installed the Hurst shifter knob, he might have also installed the hood..  unless we have *proof* that it was factory original?   I haven't yet seen such proof...?

If the hood has a production date stamped in the rear driver side , then chances are it's a ZL2 car. I believe it to be real, Nice looking car. Kudos to your friend Chick!
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Block crayon marks on: March 29, 2014, 12:10:45 AM
I have a 6,000 mile 70 Z28 engine and CTB can clearly be seen both sides of the block . I too have seen DZ on 302.
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Rear brake cable bracket. on: March 06, 2014, 07:55:02 PM
Thats the Correct Bracket
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: connecting rod reconditioning on: March 01, 2014, 01:50:03 AM
Yeah, I looked it up in the P&A and the 67 350 DID use dimple rods! I didn't realize that. I thought they were like 68 and 69 which DIDN'T use dimple rods. I've deleted my original post.

Ed


Yes they sure puzzled me the first time I saw a set, VERY Rare. I personally would use the later 3/8" bolt "pink" rod to gain bolt strength and better rod material, especially if it is a original stamp block.

Then again, the '67's are small journal, no "pinks" until medium journal '68-9, right ?

Regards,
Steve

No, All 1967 SS350,s are Large journal with 11/32 bolt large journal rods, the 327 was a small journal engine, same as the 302 for that year. Early 68 Z28 used the non shotpeened rod pressed pin, later production 68 used the shotpeened rod with floating pin same as all 69 302DZ.
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: connecting rod reconditioning on: February 28, 2014, 11:41:12 AM
Yeah, I looked it up in the P&A and the 67 350 DID use dimple rods! I didn't realize that. I thought they were like 68 and 69 which DIDN'T use dimple rods. I've deleted my original post.

Ed


Yes they sure puzzled me the first time I saw a set, VERY Rare. I personally would use the later 3/8" bolt "pink" rod to gain bolt strength and better rod material, especially if it is a original stamp block.
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: connecting rod reconditioning on: February 28, 2014, 11:16:52 AM
"Dimple" rods weren't used on the 67 350, but to answer your question, yes you can overdo anything.

Ed


Sorry Ed but 1967 Camaro 350 rods WERE Dimple, they are very unique in that they used the 11/32 bolt same as the small journal rod, and to clarify they had a raised dimple just under the wristpin area on both side, same as a L78 rod. in the last 40 years I have taken apart and overhauled 3 known original SS350 Camaro engines and they all had them. Very hard to find rods and only used in 1967.
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Picture of 69 z top of engine wanted on: February 13, 2014, 06:00:39 PM
I've seen one on an 06A car.

My 06A has the fuel line clip, build date is June 18? and the shipping date is June 22 or 23?, if I remember correctly. Canadian Docs Z28. It says "Stamp Rite" on it, its black, not phospahate, never been off the fuel line.
No PCV clip, in fact NEVER seen one on a Z, just L78 as posted.
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: January 31, 2014, 02:38:41 PM
Gary, I have a real collection of GM Master Parts Catalogues, Camaro, Corvette,Nova,Chevelle,Vega,Firebird etc.,  The girl friend worked at a Local GM Dealer, she holds a licensed Journey man parts certificate, and still retains the Grp. part numbers/sections by memory. I got a lot of these when GM went computerized. The Camaro parts catalogue is 741A dated August/1974. I also have 751A, dated Sept/1975, 761A dated Jan/1978 and others I acquired when I ran a Corvette/Camaro Restoration shop for 20 yrs.
 In Grp. # 5.871 of the Camaro 741A it shows # 3901708, the 751A shows # 9796696 as do the others. I also scanned the Chevelle Part page. Interesting to note it shows for 70-73 Monte Carlo # 9796696 as having 4 clips. 


Good information, thanks. It would be interesting if they noted the  part# change for the 14" trim rings since we know the chevelle used the 4 clip in 1969 and changed to the inner serrated in 1970.

Steve, I will look tonite.
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: January 31, 2014, 02:33:55 PM
It's confusing to me WHY that part number (# 3901708 shows up in a '74 catalog), when it doesn't appear in the Oct 1, 1970 P&A that I have??   Ask your girlfriend (wife now?.. Smiley   if errors in those printed catalogs were common??  I sure wish someone had a 1969 dated parts manual, as that might clear up some of the questions we have re PNs..

It's also interesting to me that Jims69 posted that he bought 4 from GM in mid seventies that had the four inner serrated 'teeth' type of retainers.  I've never liked or used that type, and didn't really know that GM mfg'd them....?   Those are the type that are reproduced in the inexpensive trim rings by companies like Wheel Vintiques.


Gary, Is the P&A book you have a GM Master Parts catalogue just for Camaro? The Chevelle #39 JPG page is from a April/76  Chevelle GM Master parts Book. Dont know why 2 books would/could? be wrong?

Corvette also used the same 4 clip trim ring in 1967, later issue Corvette Parts Book 14A dated Jan/1981 shows # 9796696 as the part number but I know I have a much earlier issue parts book at home, will check it tonite and repost. Guy I work/restore cars for has 1 of the lowest mile 67 Corvette 427/435HP know to exist, 6,000 miles, it was in the Corvette Bowling Green Museum and has documentation from NCRS, Bloomington Gold Special Collection as well as Zora Duntov as the Best Unmolested example known to Exist, it has the 4 clip trim rings, which are supposed to be the same as 1969 Z28, they are identical to the ones on my car, valve stem holes /clips etc.
Those repo trim rings are a different colour than originals, I think John Z posted before that the GM trim rings were flash chromed
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: January 31, 2014, 11:33:00 AM
Gary, I have a real collection of GM Master Parts Catalogues, Camaro, Corvette,Nova,Chevelle,Vega,Firebird etc.,  The girl friend worked at a Local GM Dealer, she holds a licensed Journey man parts certificate, and still retains the Grp. part numbers/sections by memory. I got a lot of these when GM went computerized. The Camaro parts catalogue is 741A dated August/1974. I also have 751A, dated Sept/1975, 761A dated Jan/1978 and others I acquired when I ran a Corvette/Camaro Restoration shop for 20 yrs.
 In Grp. # 5.871 of the Camaro 741A it shows # 3901708, the 751A shows # 9796696 as do the others. I also scanned the Chevelle Part page. Interesting to note it shows for 70-73 Monte Carlo # 9796696 as having 4 clips.  
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