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676  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Documenting 1969 Fasteners on: February 05, 2012, 10:08:21 AM
Have this posted on the 68 fastener page as well as it covers both.
Washer bottle bracket screws #9420415 UPC 1 A4 68 AIM p38 69 AIM p28
Screws are from three different Camaros and each set of 3 have the same mfg. screw.
Left screw from our 01B 68, middle screw from our late 10D 69, and right screw from 69 donor.
677  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Documenting 68 Camaro Fasteners & Hardware on: February 05, 2012, 10:05:02 AM
Thanks Jerry and great Phillip!
Want to finish going through the AIM checking part #'s but here is some new news.
Washer bottle bracket screws #9420415 UPC 1 A4 68 AIM p38 69 AIM p28
Screws are from three different Camaros and each set of 3 have the same mfg. screw.
Left screw from our 01B 68, middle screw from our late 10D 69, and right screw from 69 donor.
678  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Documenting 1969 Fasteners on: February 05, 2012, 09:48:22 AM
Happened across this quite by accident as a friend asked me to phosphate a few screws.
As it turned out they were for the support bars from the fender to the radiator support.
Told me his restored 69 had pointed screws and Brian Henderson told him they should not be pointed.
So he took the ones out from another non-restored 69 he had. I told him I was not aware of this but would check our 69.
Sure enough our 69 has the non-pointed screws as well so I check our 69 AIM vs. our 68 AIM.
69 AIM p146 UPC 11-13 B3 calls out two different screws for that support bar.
Support bar to fender screw #3960314, support bar to rad. support screw #3846202 (hard to read in our AIM).
68 AIM p142 UPC 11-13 B3 calls out screw #9780122 both ends.
Our 69 is a 10D (Oct. 69) but not sure of the build date of my friends donor 69.
The #3846202 in both cases are a non-pointed 5/16-18 X 9/16 lg with 3/4" captured washer.
Please note the two to the left are our 10D screws and my friends all had the same 'D' type mfg. screws.
I assume they made changes from 68 to 69 due to possible wiring in that area of the rad. support.


679  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67-69 Shock Retainer/washer on: February 04, 2012, 06:25:17 PM
Sure did help Mike so thank you for the great pics and John for clarifying the spatter paint!
Now what has me a little bewildered relates to the retainers/washers Mike displayed vs. the AIM calling out the same part number, #5544049. Does anyone have info on that part #? I do not remember any original retainers with the nut hex indented in the retainer but that means next to zero Grin Thanks again Mike and John!
680  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Radio Repair Recommendations on: February 04, 2012, 06:04:24 PM
FYI...

Jerry is a true professional!  He was awesome to deal with.  Sent my radio to him 3 weeks ago.  I have it back already and it works great!  He's everything Chick said and more.
Great guy.

Thanks for the recommendation Chick.


Your welcome Bob!  Yep, Jerry is a first class guy for sure.
I can hear the music now Smiley
681  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67-69 Shock Retainer/washer on: February 04, 2012, 09:27:54 AM
Did not intend to have a double post. Lost my internet connection and thought it did not go only to find out it did.
My apologies!  Embarrassed  Tried to delete one but it will not let me.......
682  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / 67-69 Shock Retainer/washer on: February 04, 2012, 07:59:09 AM
I thought this was one of our original shock retainers (one on the right).
Still has the trunk spatter on it but it measures 1.5" in diameter??
Other originals I have have similar design bur measure in that 1 3/8" ballpark (1.390").
Now I'm not so sure it was off our 68 but have no idea where else it would have come from???
Has anyone observed or have these 1.5" shock retainers/washers?
The AIM calls out the same part# shock retainer for the front and rear shocks.
683  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Documenting 68 Camaro Fasteners & Hardware on: February 02, 2012, 10:01:06 PM
Identified screw #3846202 5/16-18 X 3/4" lg w/captured washer 3/4" dia.
Did not complete entire AIM search but this screw is found on pages 61, 63, 73, 144, 145
Would love to note what others have found pertaining to their #3846202.
The picture of these two screws came out of our 68 01B NOR built Camaro.

Here is our orig. rear brake bracket where these screws are used.

The good news, AMK sells the same exact screw under G4348 but that is only for two.
Anyone have a AMK catalog to review bulk order AMK part #'s?
684  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Documenting 68 Camaro Fasteners & Hardware on: February 02, 2012, 09:43:55 PM
In an effort to determine what would normally be considered the correct fastener for different applications this thread is being developed to coincide with similar threads for 67 (hopefully) and 69 Camaro fasteners.  For a preliminary on how this came about please review the birth in thread http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9074.0 and http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9130.0
This effort will need the support and creation of sorts of a "team" and I have volunteered to be the team scribe and a team member. This could be huge in benefits for all of us and for years to come. Let the investigation and data collection begin.
Please help  Grin
Chick
685  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Fasteners and headmarkings on: February 02, 2012, 07:12:01 PM
I agree Dave with what you submitted before and now 100% but hopefully more members will assist and get involved. And maybe we need to have a thread on Team Camaro also as they do have a lot of very active members and not everyone works both forums.
No doubt this is a very worthwhile project that could benefit the hobby immensely.
686  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Factory Fastener Discussion on: February 01, 2012, 11:18:59 PM
   
Actually I was happy to read your last sentence…here’s why; I am only familiar with the 69 AIM and I have no idea what the similarities are for each of the three years. Having said that, I think each year's data should be kept separate. If you agree, would you mind heading up the 68's data record keeping? This would mean keeping track of all the fasteners (screws, bolts, nuts, and washers & their PN’s) as they correspond to the AIM. If you agree, I will be more than happy to head up the same for the 69. That would only leave us someone for the 67.

Your thoughts?

Yes, I will assist with the 68 by being an active team member and team scribe! Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... By the way, two of my four #2 & #3 sub-frame mount bolts were pitted up and a member sent me his four from his Camaro since he was doing major susp. changes and his four were the exact same head markings. If I remember his car was a 67 that he purchased new and still owns.
687  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Fasteners and headmarkings on: February 01, 2012, 09:58:11 PM
These are our original sub-frame bolt examples from our 68 01B NOR Camaro.
Left hand bolt #3912533 used in #2 & #3 sub-frame mounts. Page50 1968 AIM.
Right hand bolt #3914816 used in #1 sub-frame to rad. support mount. Page50 1968 AIM.

Top bolt- # 3912533 Bottom bolt- #3914816
688  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Fasteners and headmarkings on: February 01, 2012, 09:13:14 PM
Marty, you have added some great suggestions along with some others so that is good! We might want to keep this as simple as possible or members may choose not to paticipate. Example: Instead of the picture with a tape measure etc., you could use one of your examples with the red measurement lines to show/communicate how a screw/bolt should be reported. Pete brings up some excellent points. I will assist anyway I can.
689  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Fasteners and headmarkings on: January 31, 2012, 12:00:51 AM
These are now back in the car but the door hinges to door and pillar had three different bolt suppliers. All three I have seen in other cars but it seemed so odd to have three different suppliers in one car but...... Grin
690  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Fasteners and headmarkings on: January 30, 2012, 11:51:24 PM
Dave got me thinking that he is on to something! He mentioned and showed a #9420415 with the 'D' logo and how it was used in many locations. Maybe what might be of help is to take this in smaller junks so it does not become so large we end up abandoning what can and will be an excellent exercise. I just spent time documenting all the front end screws called out in the 68 AIM. One screw jumps out at you if for anything the amount of locations and pure numbers. Screw # 9780422! 68 AIM pages include 137, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 149, & 153.
What is it used for? -Header panel to fender  -Inner fender to fender  -Support brace from fender to rad. support
Valance to fender extension  -Hood catch support  -Fan shroud brkt to rad. support  -Battery Tray  -Headlight housing
If members check cars and report back we can document the different head markings (suppliers) Marty has graciously put together. Example: Marty had each head marking numbered so with information from members we could at least have a feel for what were the predominant suppliers used for a specific part #. Just a thought!
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