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676  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 1969 Hood Hinge Color on: February 25, 2012, 11:50:28 PM
Mark, many of us use Palmetto phosphate concentrate and its fairly easy but the hood hinges due to size are a little more than many of us want to handle. I recommend having them done by one of the two already mentioned. Do yourself some favors and complete searches on the phosphate process as I'm sure it would come in handy for your restoration. A glass beader is most important for the prep work.
Good luck and even more important, welcome aboard!
677  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: front end inspection marks on a 67 camaro on: February 24, 2012, 02:11:17 AM
Ron, have you done any searches?  Grin There has been a thread running for months concerning driveshafts- http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7861.0
and many threads on suspension marks. Here is one on a 69Z- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=172310&highlight=drag+link
Quanta sells kits with instructions on where paint marks go. Believe the 67 to 69 kits have the same details on where or what to do.
http://www.gastanks.com/Camaro-Chassis-Detailing-Kit/products/1950/
I looked for and was lucky enough to verify markings found on our camaro so we could duplicate during restoration.
Example on ours (more in that thread)-  http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584&page=29
678  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Brake Line Brackets - Subframe and Rear Axle - Correct Finish? on: February 21, 2012, 12:42:35 PM
I thought all these were dipped black?  All of the 69 ones I cleaned were.

YEP, Just restored a unmolested 02B Van Nuys Z28, and they were black, they had runs and pretty sure they were dipped. The brkt that holds the 2 lines together was natural steel.

I'd be curious to see what others have noted on 67/68 front brake line (4 of them) brackets? I noticed no paint on ours but that does not mean its that way. Mike and others, any observations?
679  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Thinking About Buying a Parts Car?!? on: February 19, 2012, 01:17:18 PM
Where is the junk yard in the Southeast you are referring to?
I was thinking the very same thing!
680  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1967 302 dipstick on: February 16, 2012, 09:31:12 PM
You are correct, it was brown  Grin
Bet they can be extremely hard to find.......
681  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Brake Line Brackets - Subframe and Rear Axle - Correct Finish? on: February 15, 2012, 06:30:53 PM
I know the 5 brake brackets on our 68 were just bare metal pieces and the ones they repro are bare stampings except for In-line Tube, who has theirs painted black.
682  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Fasteners and headmarkings on: February 14, 2012, 09:29:14 PM
Head marking #71 is a good one! As noted George and I both have it in our door hinges and I have noted that head marking on several other Camaro's but interesting enough I have only noticed it used for door hinges.
683  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Fasteners and headmarkings on: February 09, 2012, 06:31:55 PM
Chick - Thanks for this post. I've been searching for someone else who has the "LF" fastener. I am trying to find out when this particular fastener was used/introduced which also brings up another important question; I think most of us know the "Pinch-Point" & "Dog-Point" fasteners were introduced for use early into the First Gen. run. The question I had was; "When was the "Roll-Point" Machine -Thread bolt developed for use. I found this thread over at TC that I hope John doesn't mind me posting. John actually developed the "Roll-Point" fastener in conjunction with Anchor for use beginning with the '68 run. Maybe this can shed some light on wether or not the "LF" screw is a legit factory fastener.

6Th post...3rd paragraph; http://www.camaros.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-97516.html
Saw that "roll point" but until now did not know what it was called or have seen one in first gen camaro. Thanks Marty for the thread and later in that thread JohnZ mentioned "Production applications started with late '69 "B"-bodies built at Flint Assembly and spread from there in '70-'71 to other plants and other car lines."
684  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Documenting 68 Camaro Fasteners & Hardware on: February 08, 2012, 10:52:42 PM
PN#3831892 68 AIM p66 UPC 4 B1
Compared our original 01B 68 to aftermarket screws and they are exactly the same.
Picture of orig. bolts and bagged replacements. Wish they were all that way or easy!

685  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Documenting 68 Camaro Fasteners & Hardware on: February 08, 2012, 10:25:07 PM
Gas tank strap screw and bolt.
68 AIM p121 UPC 8 B1
view A screw #9420065
view B bolt # 396712
This notation is just to confirm the aftermarket screw/bolt replacements are not correct.
Original restored screw to the right vs. aftermarket to the left.
Original restored bolts to right vs aftermarket to left. Notice chamfered end of orig. bolt.
I have another set of original gas strap bolts and they have no marking on the head.
Can anyone supply info on what you have found?

686  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Fasteners and headmarkings on: February 08, 2012, 10:07:58 PM
Reply 163-reference head marking Marty has labeled #15.
Question or remark on screw #3846202 screw/bolt with supplier #15.
I checked numerous original #3846202 and could not find that #15 configuration.
Then I found a bag of new #3846202 screws that have that head marking.
Note the 15 on the picture (bag) below is what they cost, $15...
Just a concern #15 supplier type might not be be correct.
Can anyone confirm they have an original #3846202 wtih #15 head markings?
 

687  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Documenting 68 Camaro Fasteners & Hardware on: February 08, 2012, 09:22:33 PM
I have a list of hardware by part#/page but not quite complete. When finished I will add to this thread.
Started going through much of the extra hardware we have from our 68 and other donor Camaro's.
First up, part #9780422. Checked each one for who made and there were only three.
The picture shows 13, 9, & 10 pcs but I found 10 more 9780422 screws and they were a mix 2, 3, & 5 making
the total of the three head markings left to right 15, 12, and 15.
Small sample but statisically very even distribution. Used Marty's sheet to show who made the screws.
Can anyone confirm what supplier markings are on the AMK #9780422 supplied screw?
688  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Documenting 1969 Fasteners on: February 08, 2012, 08:52:39 PM
69 AIM p146 UPC 11-13 B3 calls out two different screws for that support bar.
Support bar to fender screw #3960314, support bar to rad. support screw #3846202 (hard to read in our AIM).
Happened across this quite by accident as a friend asked me to phosphate a few screws.
As it turned out they were for the support bars from the fender to the radiator support.
Told me his restored 69 had pointed screws and Brian Henderson told him they should not be pointed.
So he took the ones out from another non-restored 69 he had. I told him I was not aware of this but would check our 69.
Sure enough our 69 has the non-pointed screws as well so I check our 69 AIM vs. our 68 AIM.
69 AIM p146 UPC 11-13 B3 calls out two different screws for that support bar.
Support bar to fender screw #3960314, support bar to rad. support screw #3846202 (hard to read in our AIM).
68 AIM p142 UPC 11-13 B3 calls out screw #9780122 both ends.
Our 69 is a 10D (Oct. 69) but not sure of the build date of my friends donor 69.
The #3846202 in both cases are a non-pointed 5/16-18 X 9/16 lg with 3/4" captured washer.
Please note the two to the left are our 10D screws and my friends all had the same 'D' type mfg. screws.
I assume they made changes from 68 to 69 due to possible wiring in that area of the rad. support.

Sorry but I wrote the pn wrong! The screw in question is #3846201 and not #3846202.
Under UPC 11-13 B3 it is screw #8 and screw #9 is #3846202.
I was referencing what I believe to be the non-pointed #3846201.
Can others confirm the 201 is a non-pointed 5/16-18 X 9/16 lg with 3/4" captured washer?
689  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Documenting 1969 Fasteners on: February 05, 2012, 10:08:21 AM
Have this posted on the 68 fastener page as well as it covers both.
Washer bottle bracket screws #9420415 UPC 1 A4 68 AIM p38 69 AIM p28
Screws are from three different Camaros and each set of 3 have the same mfg. screw.
Left screw from our 01B 68, middle screw from our late 10D 69, and right screw from 69 donor.
690  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Documenting 68 Camaro Fasteners & Hardware on: February 05, 2012, 10:05:02 AM
Thanks Jerry and great Phillip!
Want to finish going through the AIM checking part #'s but here is some new news.
Washer bottle bracket screws #9420415 UPC 1 A4 68 AIM p38 69 AIM p28
Screws are from three different Camaros and each set of 3 have the same mfg. screw.
Left screw from our 01B 68, middle screw from our late 10D 69, and right screw from 69 donor.
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