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31  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Seam sealer on: February 08, 2014, 06:27:42 PM
Thanks guys, techniques are always helpful. What I am more interested in is what brand of sealer anyone might recommend.
3M was used on our 68Z restoration.
32  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Seam sealer on: February 07, 2014, 11:02:11 PM
Try using a latex glove and finger to smooth the caulked joint out and then use a flux brush to lightly stroke it out one directional.
33  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Identifying Original Console Gauges on: February 05, 2014, 07:03:57 PM
The 68's dated Dec67 and they were cherry! Smiley

34  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z on ebay - twin on: February 03, 2014, 06:51:38 PM
They have stated in a response they have been told the trim tag is a repro.
35  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z on ebay - twin on: February 03, 2014, 08:53:06 AM
I also agree that tag is definitely a repop. 
Yep it sure looks that way, and a shame as it takes away so much from the car. Engine pad pits look funky, rust pits?
36  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: February 02, 2014, 07:39:28 AM
This is what I thought was an older designed 4 clip and orientation but for sure no expert and not 100% sure. Note how the clip is imbedded in the metal!

37  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: February 01, 2014, 02:32:28 PM
Those trims have the correct looking valve stem hole, and the correct looking clips.   
How wide is the trim ring, Chick??   My parts book says that trim is only 1-3/4" wide and is for a 6" wide rallye...??

Yes Gary, they are 1 3/4" wide and for the 67/68 DF 15X6 rally wheel. Good eye and why I took the picture that way as I thought later version wheel clips were installed and oriented differently. I always found it interesting that a 67 DC (Corvette) 15X6 was not the same trim ring as the DF 15X6 but the same trim ring as the 69Z wheels......
38  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: January 31, 2014, 07:03:00 PM
Well looks like both will work.  Good thing because I spent 400.00 on these trim rings lol

Its been great to see all the responses and information gathered.  This site is great to be a part of!!!!

I'm not so sure both will work!?!? Would be interesting to have at least one person identify that early of a car had those type trim rings. Can you post a picture of what you purchased?
Here are some pics of the trim rings I thought were purchased in 1979 but actually the ship date is Sept. 1980. Invoice has no date, hence the picture of the UPS label. These were purchased for our 68Z.



39  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67/68 4 speed back up harness Cowl Location on: January 29, 2014, 10:44:36 PM
Well I hope that answers Chicks question, now I have to redrill some holes, you can see where he plugged them.

LOL but not at you Jim but wondering how many of us have had this. This is what I found today! On my build thread Jerry who has a 07C NOR 68Z noted his hole was where Ed's picture showed used by LOS only. Guess what, that is where our hole was.
With Jerry's info I can only assume there were more than a few NOR cars with that hole dimple 3.5 inches below the ground strap hole used to drill out. I'm supplying pictures of the welded hole easily found behind the under dash mat, and after drilling. With the harness installed one can still see remnants of the weld around the grommet. Turned out fine but it took some time. Also reviewed photo gallery and the hole was not there after media blasting which only verifies it was brazed shut in 1983 or 1984 when it was at a friends body shop for paint. No idea why we/he did that but nothing hurt and its fixed.


Used my first finger to rub around the inside weld and thumb to trace the outside on the tape.


Harness installed-


Harness inside & note some weld showing around grommet.
40  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67/68 4 speed back up harness Cowl Location on: January 28, 2014, 10:51:31 PM
Paul, do you know if your picture posted is an LOS car? Cannot tell for sure but seems to be NOR? It's drilled where Ed had shown only LOS used that dimple. Interesting that Jerry noted his 07C NOR Z/28 is drilled in that location as well as I had posted similar concern on my build thread. I will know more on my car after a more careful review behind the cowl pad.
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584&page=49
41  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67/68 4 speed back up harness Cowl Location on: January 28, 2014, 09:22:03 PM
Im not 100% sure at this point.
It's almost like both dimples were drilled out Darrell?HuhHuh
42  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67/68 4 speed back up harness Cowl Location on: January 28, 2014, 08:31:22 PM
Chick, if your car is Norwood built, you can take it to the bank that's where the hole was drilled. Los Angeles cars had it in either one of two locations. 3C in the AIM, or just to the left of that at the other dimple. Here's a picture of my LA car. Note the "alternate location" for LA cars.

Ed

Thanks Ed! Will have to carefully check to see if that hole was plugged at some time as I only see the one dimple stated as an alternate for the LOS cars. Thanks again!
43  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original 69 Z/28 chrome shifter ball? on: January 28, 2014, 07:44:22 PM
I have both originals and a couple re-pops from years past.  The old (very old) re-pop I have is both heavy and magnetic. The later re-pop is heavier than the original, not as heavy as the first re-pop but more importantly IMHO not magnetic. My car restoration will have an original one onboard but really the important point is to have one that is non-magnetic as I do not thing a judge will pull the knob to weigh but could easly check for magnetism. Originals if the person knows what they have bring very big money normally.
44  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: January 28, 2014, 07:16:42 PM
Interesting to note my GM Camaro parts book dated Aug/74 shows only 1 trim ring for 1969 Z28 - # 3901708. Then a later issue GM Camaro parts Book dated Sept/75 shows - # 9796696. No trim ring attaching style notes are included in either parts book description.

My GM Chevelle Parts Book dated Apr/76 shows the  # 3901708 trim ring as - 2&1/2" wide -Attaches with 4 clips, fitting 74-76. It then also shows # 9796696 as a supplemented part number for this ring.

Then it shows # 9796696 fitting 70-73 Monte Carlo and it says - Approx 2&1/2" Wide - Attaches with 4 Clips.

I do know that later issue # 9796696 trim rings had the serrated teeth or fingers and were still available from GM I think until approx. 2007? There is also 2 versions of this ring, early issue had Black Serrations and the later issue had Silver Serrations. I have a NOS set of the # 9796696 and the boxes are dated Mar/2000 and they have the silver serrations.

My personal opinion is that the # 3901708 - 4 clip style trim rings were the original line installed trim ring on the Z28, and the later issue # 9796696 trim ring with the serrations was a mid 70,s service trim ring, and was also used by the dealer to replace existing 4 clip trim rings after that part number # 3901708 was superceded to # 9796696.

Jerrys Book only mentions that 2 styles of trim rings were used.  No Offence meant but I honestly don't see how  a legends judge could comment with certainty that in or around Feb 1969 they went to the fingers all the way around the ring to stop the 4 clip design falling off, when the Early dated 1974 GM Camaro and Chevelle parts Book do not show the Serrated type trim ring.
Of the few original Z/28's I've looked at they all had 4 clip trim rings. Maybe some had the other type but it sure seems there were 4 clips abundant. Additionally, I have 4 NOS 15X6 68 trim rings purchased in 1979 that have the 4 clips.
45  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / 67/68 4 speed back up harness Cowl Location on: January 28, 2014, 06:55:49 PM
Well today Iím at a total loss on what or how the back up light switch was hooked up. Why, because where the AIM calls out a .920 to .940 diameter hole to be drilled (dimple location) there is no hole in my cowl. I think I found the dimple or at least it seems to be correct and the NOS underdash mat has a one inch or so hole located where the dimple is. Can someone please show me what they have on their 4-speed 67 or 68 Camaro? When I purchased this car over 30 years ago it was already tore apart so assembly has been, letís just say FUN.... LOL......
Some references: What the AIM calls out for 3C which I think is for the back up harness-


What seems to be my dimple (hard to see in a pic but prominent in person) that has no hole located under the ground strap and zinc screw-


The connection between the two harnesses that is supposed to connect at the firewall-
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