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31  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaros at AACA Grand Nationals Last Friday on: June 16, 2014, 06:45:24 PM
AACA Grand National meet is always a "must see"!  Muscle cars are becoming more & more popular there.  Also, even if you don't have a particular interest in the brass era cars - you'll appreciate the incredible level of detail & workmanship.  Next year it's going to be in AZ, so the participation will probably be down a bit - the membership is not as heavily concentrated out west.  They try to move it around the country so that everyone is within reasonable driving distance at some point.  It's a very friendly group of car people!
Chick - you'll be in the Hershey Region - bring you car(s) to Fall Hershey!
Will do Bruce as Fall Hershey is one heck of a show. Will talk about that when I see ya.......
32  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Who's coming to Frederick and/or Carlisle this week on: June 16, 2014, 06:40:34 PM
If whoever is going to be *showing* their cars at Carlisle, or having cars judged at Frederick, would give us some info..   what car.. color/yr/etc.. and location (X building?), then we could use those areas as meeting places to catch other CRG guys.. Smiley
I will have my Ammon R. Smith/Strickler Jenkins shirt so you have no need to ask if its me. Smiley Our 69 L78 Nova will be on display at the 69 solid lifter display outside of gate 1 and there will be plenty there as they are adding a tent due to the number of cars on display.  Eddie has his outstanding looking Z there and another member has a COPO 427 on display. A friend of mine has his real black L78 JL8 car on display as well. Hope to see everyone possible at Frederick Friday morning as it will be the only chance I have or anyone coming to Carlisle Friday afternoon, Saturday, or Sunday.
33  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Who's coming to Frederick and/or Carlisle this week on: June 15, 2014, 06:54:20 PM
Would like to meet some of the CRG & Team Camaro Brethren so who's coming to Frederick and/or Carlisle this coming week?
I know George is planning on being at Frederick with that great looking SS396 with air and a couple members including myself are to have cars in Carlisle's 1969 solid lifter display. I plan on being at Frederick Friday morning until the afternoon and then head north to Carlisle so hoping to see some great cars at both venues along with members.

Brian302 and I are planning to be in Frederick, MD Thurs evening thru Sunday, with hopefully a day trip to Carlisle in there somewhere as well ...  Looking forward to seeing the CRG guys..   wear your T shirts.. Smiley

GaryW
Let me know when your coming to Carlisle Gary and will be looking for you and others on Friday AM..... The solid lifter display there should be pretty neat!
34  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaros at AACA Grand Nationals Last Friday on: June 15, 2014, 06:46:14 PM
like most such organizational shows, if you aren't an AACA member, you probably don't know about their events...  I've been thinking about joining AACA for years..    maybe it's getting to be that time.. Smiley

Gary
Gary,
Just say the word... 
I think Gary finally has a good point and agree with him..... Smiley I need to get involved in this as well!
35  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Who's coming to Frederick and/or Carlisle this week on: June 15, 2014, 05:37:48 AM
Would like to meet some of the CRG & Team Camaro Brethren so who's coming to Frederick and/or Carlisle this coming week?
I know George is planning on being at Frederick with that great looking SS396 with air and a couple members including myself are to have cars in Carlisle's 1969 solid lifter display. I plan on being at Frederick Friday morning until the afternoon and then head north to Carlisle so hoping to see some great cars at both venues along with members.
 
36  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Z28 drive belt on: June 14, 2014, 09:26:30 AM
I and many others purchase our fan belts from Quanta, the same outfit that makes gas tanks in Rising Sun, MD.
http://www.gastanks.com/RESTORATION-FAN-BELTS/departments/1039/
37  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z on: June 14, 2014, 05:15:04 AM
I had a really good feeling this was where the car was heading..to be flipped specially with the rare color combo and the early production date !  He'll get 15K-18K for sure.  Not bad, a 6-8K profit to load-and-go ! 
Just my opinion but I don't think he will get that much for it. No original drive train, major rust issues, needs everything, early non X coded car. Yes, unique color combo. He might make a couple thousand after all of his expenses but again I could be wrong. Have been before Smiley
X2  But it will be interesting to see how it goes........Or does not go.......
38  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Red Line tyre measurements 68 SS RPO-PW8 on: June 13, 2014, 08:54:35 PM
Might not help but I checked our 67 Corvette Coker red-line tires and the red-wall is also 3/8" wide.
39  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: June 11, 2014, 07:30:59 PM
DW, I was thinking the same thought. We do have "all the pieces"". Yet, After reading many of the comments on the Corvette site, I can see how dissention can occur.

What I am reffering to is that someone(group) decides on a standard to judge the cars by and everyone scrambles to make their car conform.

Yet, here on CRG, we kind of celebrate the diversity and realize and document the variances we find. It is a learning process. To say all the cars(insert your year and model) are "cookie cutter" exact would erase what all the years of site research have netted. An example: My 396 car has (had) only one screw holding the RH tailpipe hanger on and only 2 clips holding the muncie speedo cable in place. Although the AIM shows and I know both these details are not in conformance with what is known as correct, I am leaving the car "as found" even if it would cause "points" loss, which has no interest to me. On the other hand, with the flame paint job it had, I am glad there are documented examples of stripes, and other details I can reference, here, on the site.
To summarize: it is good to know how it should be when restoring and also good to keep it unique knowing things were not exact on the assembly line. NCRS, while probably the best organization promoting the Vette, has, or can have, inherent flaws in establishing conformity regarding judging standards.
From the cars I've looked at and asked about the norm seems to be two Muncie speedo clips used, not three as the AIM shows! I agree with your statements so no dispute, but hope your not implying the NCRS judging manuals creates cookie cutter cars. To many including me it's what is considered the norm, but that does not mean there are exceptions as there are exceptions to just about any manufacturing process. With any organization we can find something that is not correct or should be improved but a Camaro guideline similar to NCRS would/could assist many hobbyist. If anyone has a chance review a 68/69 Corvette judging manual as it's loaded with information and some of it carries over to our cars as well.
40  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: June 10, 2014, 06:35:17 AM
so it seems to me they threaten law suits because somebody speaks their mind ? won`t correct a judging guide that has been wrong for a decade ? then close down the documentation service that makes them money ? it sure does seem like some big ego`s clashing and not playing nice. kind of like school yard bullies. i guess charging 50.00 just to see where a car was sold new they maybe should keep it going. lets see, 200,000 plus camaros, now add how ever many nova`s and chevelles that adds up to alot of coin. interesting to see where this goes. great read by the way, thanks for posting the link.

Eldon - not defending NCRS here for sure but before you put to much stock in what you read from the whiners, you should try and find an organization that has done a better job of promoting restoration in the car hobby world. The recent actions by the current directors are not reflective of how the organization got where it is.

I'm a member of the NCRS and as Roy (thank you Roy for your NCRS service over the many years) stated "find an organization that has done a better job of promoting restoration". I've said many times I wish we in this great Camaro hobby had an organization that was similar and had a guideline for restoration.
41  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: June 09, 2014, 07:35:42 PM
More info here- http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-and-c2-corvettes/3481298-ncrs-absurdity.html
42  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 Dimmer Switch 3841892 Grommet? on: June 08, 2014, 05:55:48 PM
Bob,

 I checked the 67 4B LOS and it looks exactly like the pictures Steve posted with one exception, Steve's has a lone number 3 and mine is the number 2. Otherwise the manufacturer and '833' are the same and relative to each others position.
 As for rubber vs plastic, I would say a flexible plastic. If I had to order one and the choice was rubber or plastic, I would select plastic.

Mike

I have a couple originals including the one out of our 68 and it sure seems just to be plastic. The huge issue is the inside diameter on the grommet that comes with the repro carpet vs. the carpet grommet originals. Original on the right. And they can be found without spending a lot. Purchased an original off a Camaro dealer at Spring Carlisle for $1.00 just to have for another spare. I could assume GM used that grommet on my types of GM cars.

43  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Which water pump needed for '68 Z28 on: June 08, 2014, 05:25:57 PM
I believe that water pump was used on trucks also and the reason for the 3/4" size along with when they went to re-man outlets they were mostly changed to the 3/4" size. JohnZ mentioned the re-man issue before if my memory is correct.
44  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Early 1968 Z/28 original tires? on: June 03, 2014, 05:29:13 PM
It was an E70x15 according to the air pressure sticker, being available only on the Z28 I would call it special.

By the way the early 69 Z's list the on their Window Sticker a no cost 15" tire option.
PU6 AD - E70 x 15 Tiires
This was dropped sometime between N522xxx and N528xxx based on the Window Stickers in JM's book.

What was the P28 option, priced at $90 for 1968 models,... "Wheels, 15" and special tire (added 03JAN68 to AIM)"

There is a guy on the Yenko site with a 68 L78 4.56 or 4.88 car that has the original window sticker and 15" tire option, pretty sure it has DF's & wide tread GT's, someone else remembers a car (was def not a Z as it either had air or was a real auto car) with the 15" tire pressure sticker but had discounted it as being wrong earlier in their life.   

Would the wide tread GT have been called a 'special tire' in Jan '68?   Was that the standard tire on the Z28 at that time?   If not, what WAS the standard tire on the Z28 in Jan '68?   I was thinking that this 'special tire' might have been red line tires...?

I have an original Goodyear wide tread tire still on the large font DF wheel and the tire is date coded Jan68. JerryM 68 survivor is an earlier 67 built 68 Z so maybe he will chime in.
45  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 12 Bolt Vent Tube on: May 28, 2014, 06:50:56 PM
Concerning the Vent Tube-I thought or probably more correct to state I ASSUMED the vent tube was part of the rear differential assembly when painted. Or was it placed in after paint?
Got my answer as JohnZ said they were installed after paint.
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