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31  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 12 Bolt Vent Tube on: May 27, 2014, 08:29:19 PM

Yes. It was the all white version and looks exactly like the one that Chick posted earlier. Perhaps their on-line catalog isn't up to date. I too, searched high and low for a long time to find the correct all white version and after stumbling across Bair's at Carlisle (and reading Chick's post) it was a no brainer to buy one. My rear still has the faded yellow vent tube but for a dollar I just couldn't pass it up.  Grin

You may want to give them a call. Ask for Brian...he's a real nice guy and I'm sure would be happy to help. Bair's riveted my upper ball joints about a year ago and do top notch quality work.

Let me know how you make out.

For sure Bob, Brian is a chip off the ol' block as his Dad is a great guy to talk to as well. Gee, a buck! Paid a few more for mine!

Lloyd, I ordered mine with some other Corvette stuff from Eckler's. What is shown on the website is a white and black version but they for sure have them along with other suppliers in all white but you might want to verify with whoever you choose to order from.
32  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Wittek clamps on: May 26, 2014, 08:51:53 AM
I'm looking at some used original wittek smog pump clamps, how could I determine what is a fair price to offer the seller for the clamps.
Price can vary a lot and what one person would pay is not what another would, etc.. ! I'd search ebay and google the internet to assist with pricing.
PacecarJeff sells them!
Darrell, that was a good one!
33  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Z28 carb fuel line bracket. on: May 26, 2014, 06:36:45 AM
There is a original Z28 holley Carburetor Fuel Line with the bracket stamped with Stamp Rite listed on EBay now.

Here's the link...


Holy cow!  Sold for $625.78!   Shocked

Yes it is! Take that bracket and the power booster Z/28 hose bracket that recently sold and one has close to $1100! The detail stuff has gone out the roof!
34  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Dealership Memorabilia & Dealership Info on: May 24, 2014, 06:25:27 PM
Found out from the NCRS report our 69Z came out of Rosenthal Chevrolet in Arlington, VA. Did not find much in the way of old pictures but did uncover this info. If anyone has more please add.

And a car possibly sponsored by them?HuhHuh

35  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Dealership Memorabilia & Dealership Info on: May 24, 2014, 06:08:26 PM
Charlie Mason paid Baldwin Auto Co. 5500.00 bucks for the 1 and only converted 67 L78 chevelle to a aluminum head 427 by Motion performance pictured in front on the dealership. He got 1 chevelle for the price of 2..  Thomas Mote gave 4280.45 to Baldwin Auto Co. for his  Motion prepped 1968 427 Camaro on 4/24/68 and drove it back home to MD.

Great info and can believe the $5500 for the 67 but only $4280.45 for a 68 427 seems extremely low as a L78 car from GM probably listed close to that. Any idea where both of these cars are today, especially that 67 Chevelle?
36  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Dealership Memorabilia & Dealership Info on: May 21, 2014, 08:57:31 PM
Chick the sign on the car hauler what does it say? I think it says "Another load for Ammon & Smith  Special promotional Sale"

By George Vince, I believe your correct! Never really looked at the tractor trailer sign that close.
37  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Dealership Memorabilia & Dealership Info on: May 18, 2014, 09:42:57 PM
Baldwin, Nickey, & Yenko Dealerhips
Come on, keep the info coming!
Went to Baldwin in 1969 with a friend who was thinking of purchasing a new Baldwin 427 Camaro! The dealership was small and at the time we were both disappointed. He did not buy as he had a little sticker shock and they only had a 427 Nova in the show room to look at. Think it was $6 thousand something. Lot of money back then!
Baldwin Chevrolet

Nickey Chevrolet

Yenko Chevrolet

Take your pick of inventory in behind the dealership!

38  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Startin from Scratch-68 RS/SS 396 restoration on: May 18, 2014, 06:49:50 PM
Do you have the original engine, trans, and rear? Tell us about the car and just curious, have you done any analysis of what your going to spend to restore?
Love those 68's!
39  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 12 Bolt Vent Tube on: May 18, 2014, 06:26:57 PM
Not sure if they turned ivory over time but the corvette houses sell the exact vent tube but its white. Danco with the same lettering! Here is an example!

40  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Chevrolet's New Z/28 on: May 18, 2014, 06:15:48 PM
Eddie, that was a re-run! He has been bidding on vin #1 Corvettes and now the new Z/28 for several years as they go in his private collection plus the charity which I believe is the amount total minus the value of the automobile.
41  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: gray phosphate on: May 18, 2014, 03:10:44 PM
One of the main reasons you clean the parts immediately is to remove the solution or you will have white spots develop. Palmetto suggests cleaning the parts to remove grease/oil, glass beading, and then within two hours start the phosphate process without handling the parts with bare hands . IMO glass beading bolts and screws does not impact the texture to any extent of causing issues but there are many parts I would not glass bead for that very reason. That is what I do but have for just a quick couple things cleaned and wire brushed which can be acceptable. Just like painting though, the final part is only as good as the preparation. I'm sure there are many ways to accomplish satisfactory results! Smiley Gary is of course correct the instructions do say spraying and wiping three times with wd-40 but the soft brush helps eliminate the three and out wiping mode. When I first started every so often even after wiping and spraying 3 times a part after sitting would obtain a white spot which is the salts mentioned earlier. That is when I found "Mystery Oil" took that off immediately so I started using it with a soft brush with nice results. Recently I was helping a friend get started with the process and he had a pan of WD-40 which we put the parts in that first, scrubbed with the brush and then into the mystery oil for a final bath before taking out and wiping down. Another key is when you take a part out spray it, dip it, or whatever immediately with the oil.
Example of sub-frame bolts after completion-
42  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor on: May 18, 2014, 10:56:01 AM

                     thanks john.
                                      I guess if it was a recall it wouldnt be original.
                                       any info on lifting lugs and left wire tower would appreciate.
                                                                                69 olympic gold z

The lifting lugs as you call them were installed at the factory and yes, the rear spark plug tower does have two bends.  Sounds like you have a neat car iceman!
43  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: gray phosphate on: May 18, 2014, 10:47:28 AM
Thanks for the great info here. It is very consistent with other authoritative sources on the topic. I have completed the disassembly process on my '69 and am gearing up to clean and parkerize all the nuts and bolts. The one part of the process that I am still struggling with is protection of the parkerized parts. i've read about WD-40, PreLube 6, Boeshield and Rust Prevention Magic. Some recommend re-coating once or twice per year. I can't imagine doing this for all the nuts and bolts and washers on the car. Is that what others do?



PS: I do want the factory look, so spraying with clear coat is not an option.

Hi John,
The WD-40 immediately after taking out of the bath is more of a cleaning process to remove salts (those white spots that can show). I've found that soft brushing (old tooth brush works well) and utilizing mystery oil works excellent. Again, this is just what I do immediately after parts coming out of the bath. For the long term no going back to coat I've been using Rust Prevention Magic which leaves no shine or oil look whatsoever. Sixteen months ago I took a 427 cast iron alternator bracket that was rusty and placed in evaporust to obtain a bare cast iron virgin looking piece. I then coated it with Rust Prevention Magic and hung it up for a few months. Then sprayed it with water and let it sit. After over 16 months the only rust on that casting is down in crevices or tight areas I missed. Overall it works great but have found on smooth parts like metal stampings (top of a seat track is a good example) I did have some minor formation of a very light surface rust that even wiped off with the finger. Only thing you need to apply rust prevention magic is a heat gun and a brush. Google for info and have fun with the cooking class......
44  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Dealership Memorabilia & Dealership Info on: May 15, 2014, 09:03:24 PM
Oh yes, Phillip! That was a cool looking dealership!

Another one that bit the dust, dang it!
Don Steves Chevrolet 

Thursday, 16 July 2009 

Rumors continue to swirl throughout the community about the future of  Don Steves Chevrolet. The Journal interviewed Linda Steves, who along with her husband Tom is doing everything she can to maintain the dealership as a new car dealer. She made the following statement, “We’re selling cars. We still have customers for them. We are a Chevy franchise until October 1, 2010. A lot can happen between now and October 2010. Don Steves will be here past that.”

General Motors is going through a huge transition. The Steves made an appeal of the decision to end their dealership which they received 10 days after the first round of closure letters arrived at dealerships. The corporation, which is currently in bankruptcy, seems to believe only those dealerships located close to a freeway should be left open, ignoring the fact that Don Steves has always ranked in the top five dealerships in its zone which includes L.A. and Orange County.

Steves pointed out the closing of the dealership affects not only La Habra’s revenues but also Whittier’s. Sales tax receipts are credited to the city in which the owner resides. Whittier residents have constituted 60% of the dealership’s new car sales.

As things stand now the dealership will remain an official Chevy dealership until October 2010 able to purchase and sell new Chevys, like the latest Camaro sold last week.

The dealership will continue its General Motors service department, do warranty work and service all GM brands.

The Steves have appealed the closure decision and enlisted the help of Congressional representatives, industry friends, and anyone else they think will help. “We are here to stay,” Linda concluded.
45  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 15, 2014, 08:21:56 PM

What do you think Roy??  Smiley

I think that zone 31 dealer 073 is the dealer that was invoiced by Chevrolet for Gary's car. I do think Stan is a great guy, I was fortunate enough to be able to use him as a national team leader while I was the national judging chairman for NCRS.

Yes Sir Roy, Stan is a both a good person and has a lot of knowledge. He lives fairly close and we have been to each others garage and shared information and assistance. And thanks to the NCRS team and you Roy for getting this huge data base sharing accomplished. Today I received my letter stating "Your Chevy Muscle Docs Shipping Data Report, order number 554" has been mailed.
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