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16  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 68 RS Z28 - opinions please on: September 21, 2014, 02:55:07 PM
Low mileage '68 Z? Sounds like everyone's got one.  Wink

CORRECTION:  Low mileage '68 Z? Everyone wants one!  Smiley

Paul
X2! And I had been told the car only had 19 thousand some miles on it by a local who knew of the car.
17  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 68 RS Z28 - opinions please on: September 20, 2014, 10:15:16 PM
Bruce, was the guy's name Paul? The car was his son's correct? I looked at the car at the last show we were at together (you probably never saw it as he left on the early side) and the pad seemed correct to me both in broach marks and stamping but I'm no expert. The cowl plenum was the real deal but had a repro rubber sleeve. He gave me his name and address as I wanted to look the car over more closely. Nice to look for things on real Z/28's and of course, got to love those 68 Z/28's.... Smiley
I need to clarify something here.... Smiley The stamping looked OK to me but not referring to the MO that apparently was hand stamped of course for some reason. Our MO was built 10 days after this one and much of the assembly build date stamp looks the same. It for sure is interesting as I never saw a MO like that but again the rest seemed to fit the bill. I took a picture of it with my cell phone but not much better than what Bruce showed.

18  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 68 RS Z28 - opinions please on: September 20, 2014, 08:24:52 PM
Bruce, was the guy's name Paul? The car was his son's correct? I looked at the car at the last show we were at together (you probably never saw it as he left on the early side) and the pad seemed correct to me both in broach marks and stamping but I'm no expert. The cowl plenum was the real deal but had a repro rubber sleeve. He gave me his name and address as I wanted to look the car over more closely. Nice to look for things on real Z/28's and of course, got to love those 68 Z/28's.... Smiley
19  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Master cylinder cover on: September 20, 2014, 07:25:17 AM
Just posted this on the thread on the late 1969 09D Z/28 survivor and thought would post here as well for future searches.
20  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor on: September 20, 2014, 07:22:01 AM
Chick,
Would it be possible to get detailed pics of the Master Cylinder Lid / Wording and Vent holes. Thanxs Dave
Sorry it took so long Dave as I was on vacation and then took some time to get back up for a picture but here you go!
21  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Govt Seized Yenko's & Muscle Cars on: September 14, 2014, 06:37:12 AM
Did not see this here so thought it might be interesting to many to see many felons like cars also! Just got back from vacation and was checking up on news and this was very interesting in what they ended up going for.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/580383/1
22  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Master cylinder cover on: September 14, 2014, 06:26:20 AM
To help establish info here is a lid off a 5/31/68 dated Engineering Unit that was never installed. Parts List that came with unit lists cover as #5455517


23  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Bolt ID, 67. on: September 13, 2014, 02:05:19 PM
The first 6 appear to be for the leaf spring bracket and you can purchase new ones from AMK that are correct since it appears yours need replaced. The second picture are not screws originally part of your 67 IMO since the screw threading goes out to the very end which is a later design which started in the early 70's.
Also, as side note! Be careful of repro j-nuts as they are soft and strip out under torque or at least many of us have had issues with that in the past. I purchased mine from GM a couple years ago but not sure if they are still available.
24  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor on: August 27, 2014, 12:56:05 PM
Steve, you remember this thread? It dealt with different deck lid bumpers with pictures.
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7160.0
25  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor on: August 27, 2014, 12:52:05 PM

This I always found interesting that the 69 had such a different trunk lid bumper compared to the 67 & 68. This is one of the originals off the car and quick story. We knew the left side deck lid bumper was missing when the car was first looked at way back when. Not too long ago we were looking at the car and the trunk mat and in the crevice of the left side of the trunk the owner/friend while I'm standing beside him says can you believe this and picks up an original trunk lid bumper. What was interesting was the hole in the lid where it goes seemed to indicate if there was one there at one time it was not for too long. We believe possibly it was put in but not correctly, fell in the trunk corner crevice, and been there since the car was built. Just one of those things you find interesting.





Different trunk lid bumper for 67 68 ? My late 67 has the same type.
Originals I have looked at were a thicker and more squared off where the outside diameter met the face. Here is an example from a 68Z and our 68 was the same. Just my observation over the years between different years.
26  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor on: August 27, 2014, 12:16:14 PM
Spare with 27 marked inside rim.


This I always found interesting that the 69 had such a different trunk lid bumper compared to the 67 & 68. This is one of the originals off the car and quick story. We knew the left side deck lid bumper was missing when the car was first looked at way back when. Not too long ago we were looking at the car and the trunk mat and in the crevice of the left side of the trunk the owner/friend while I'm standing beside him says can you believe this and picks up an original trunk lid bumper. What was interesting was the hole in the lid where it goes seemed to indicate if there was one there at one time it was not for too long. We believe possibly it was put in but not correctly, fell in the trunk corner crevice, and been there since the car was built. Just one of those things you find interesting.



Labels on the rear hubs.
27  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor on: August 27, 2014, 11:51:26 AM
Chick,

You can learn a lot going through Legends Judging... I had seen the ribbed hose in several pictures of low mileage original cars. If you use the still available hose from GM wipe off the inkjet part numbers first. No inkjet printers in 1969. I found one at http://www.newyorkrestomod.com/default.asp but I don't see it on their website now.

The square cut clamps ends are made differently now and have rounded ends, I have heard a small grinder can change that. The one in the picture looks like it was painted Black as there is a small section flaked off.

I wonder what finish would be on a NOS fuel Y block?

Mike
 
I think most here Mike know about the correct squared off spring clamps that also applies to the gas line clamps that are a kind of olive green color. NCRS is where I first heard of changing the repro's that are round to squared off years ago but they are still catchable IMO since the ears become too short. The clamp in my opinion was not painted black but has a small section that is rusting causing a type of flaking. Looking at this car I'm confident the carb was never off the car and is quite a specimen for reviews.
28  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor on: August 27, 2014, 10:25:19 AM
Great Pictures! Thanks for posting.

A couple things I would like to point out. The first is the ribbed PCV hose with the Black flat ended spring clamp, no clamp on the PCV valve which was probably changed out years ago. There was a post about this hose awhile ago.

Next is the Y fuel block that looks to be steel? Will a magnet stick to it? Mine is brass.

Mike
Mike here is a picture of an original cross-ram fuel block and it looks steel or more like aluminum but its some type of coating over the brass. At the bottom of the threads you can see the brass as this fuel block had been used at Bill Jenkins shop. I can only assume that the late 69Z has a similar or same coating as again, it is non-magnetic as we checked!
29  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor on: August 27, 2014, 10:14:59 AM
Great Pictures! Thanks for posting.

A couple things I would like to point out. The first is the ribbed PCV hose with the Black flat ended spring clamp, no clamp on the PCV valve which was probably changed out years ago. There was a post about this hose awhile ago.

Next is the Y fuel block that looks to be steel? Will a magnet stick to it? Mine is brass.

Mike
Umm, I thought every survivor I've looked at has the black phosphate flat ended spring clamp so where did you find or learn that? I just went thru my pic file and everyone has it including JohnZ's 69 Z, and Jerry McNeish's 68Z survivor. On the hose, many of the originals had some type of ribbing and what I've noticed is later service replacements do not. One can still purchase the PCV hose from GM but its smooth. What post are you referring to? The fuel block does have the look of aluminum but is non-magnetic and I assume it to be brass with a coating as I have an original cross-ram fuel block that looks exactly the same but is heavy and in the threads you can see its brass. If you go to my build thread & post 838 I have a picture that was supplied by Jon Mello showing a 68Z motor coming off the dress line (assumption) and the pcv hose has the clamp. http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584&page=56
Hope that helps Mike on our end,
30  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor on: August 26, 2014, 06:33:55 AM
Thought I'd add a few more pictures of discoveries on the car that were not shown prior. The sub-frame has a stenciled date of September 1969 along with a crayon mark.


The gas line support:


The console oil line fitting off the rear of the block:


Vac hose for distributor going into carb has white stripe:


Pictures of how the white was painted in the cowl area:


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