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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 door lock knobs on: October 20, 2014, 07:13:23 PM
the reproductions being made today look pretty good, but they are metal.
the originals for 69/70 were chrome plastic.

I have a pile of originals, but can't find anyone to do a reasonable price for the plastic chrome process.

X2, I checked many sources to have originals re-chromed and dang it was outrageous......
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Delco Script Color on Battery on: October 20, 2014, 07:10:31 PM
Friends original Y77 battery from the factory on his 69Z did NOT have the Delco in yellow but the later service replacement purchased did.

Later service replacement purchased in 1974 did!
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: '68 mo block and other gear on: October 19, 2014, 08:50:03 PM
I'd contact him again and express your going to sell the engine and kindly ask if he realizes it puts his car up 25 to 30% in value. I had a DZ short-block in our 67 corvette (was in the car when we purchased it in 1983) and found the owner of the 69Z in 2008 after it had been out of the 69Z since 1981. Took the guy 4 months to decide and what broke the ice was when I wanted to buy the car from him.
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring a galvanized finish ??? on: October 17, 2014, 10:09:08 PM
Don't forget those little white wicks. Smiley
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Tail light gasket recomendations. on: October 17, 2014, 09:59:10 PM
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring a galvanized finish ??? on: October 15, 2014, 08:50:44 PM
I use Resto Guard and Rust Prevention Magic for most all my parts. Got the Resto Guard info from a NCRS judge and have been using it for several years with excellent results and have several friends now using as well. Purchase mine from Quanta Tanks. Rust Prevention Magic would probably leave the metal with a somewhat dull look but use that on drive shafts and many, many suspension parts.
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: on the Velocity Channel! on: October 15, 2014, 08:37:38 PM
Steve does great work so I'm sure this will do nothing but showcase his restoration work. Know he has helped me more than once!
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: My New '68 Camaro Z/28 Butternut Yellow on: October 01, 2014, 09:21:09 PM
I was just remembering that Kurt. I looked and they both look the same to me. I will mic them to be sure, but they look the same to me by just bending down and looking in. And shouldn't the spoiler be the short version? Up until march of '69 I thought ALL spoilers were short. There is also the FRONT spoiler. Could they both have been added at a dealer, D80? Paint is masked around the emblem. Danny
Danny, spoiler car had two different size torsion rods and non-spoiler cars had the same diameter. What is interesting is normally the cars that the lid just sits there when you turn the key with a spoiler clearly indicates the car has the same size rods and was not originally equipped with a spoiler. But yours pops right up! They are somewhat similar but are different in size. Check them rascals to know for sure. Hope the carb swap with Charlie gives some clues to the issue.....
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Fuel Pump Backing Plate on: September 27, 2014, 07:25:50 AM
Several Camaro friends have emailed me and their findings along with my sampling overwhelmingly show the plate being normally painted.
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Fuel Pump Backing Plate on: September 23, 2014, 09:25:24 PM
Thanks Bill and Gary!
Cmon' Man  Grin, I know a lot of you have survivors or cars purchased in the 70's and some of you restore, judge, and breath cars so surely there has to be some more info on what you have seen.
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 68 RS Z28 - opinions please on: September 22, 2014, 05:43:49 PM
I saw the pic of the car. I'd guess Fathom Blue, but I've been wrong on shades of blue before.

It's the strangest stamp I've seen, but I think it's real. Never seen one like that.

Kurt, here is a better picture we took of engine pad this afternoon.
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1968 z/28 373 rear end inspection marks on: September 22, 2014, 11:03:51 AM
Thanks for the replys.James I understand redo what you find.But when somebody removes all of the factory markings there is nothing to find.We are restoring a rear end for a 69 trans am now and there are a bunch of original markings on it.
You want it to add to your 68Z?
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor on: September 22, 2014, 10:59:58 AM
Thanxs Chick for the response and I don't care that it took some time I'm just glad that you could accomadate me. I know that you're a busy man and things in life pop up. 

Do you have any pics of his shifter body / date. I've been trying to keep tabs on the shifters and I believe they are dated, but some guys don't think so.
I thought they were dated as well! No, do not have any pics of shifter body as have not been totally under the car YET. Smiley
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 68 RS Z28 - opinions please on: September 21, 2014, 06:51:54 PM
Here's a cropped and rotated version of the pad.

What color is the car?
Fathom Blue  Not too many that color!
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Fuel Pump Backing Plate on: September 21, 2014, 06:00:37 PM
I have this in our build thread but wanted to hopefully gain some opinions here among the experts. This summer I learned from a member that Legends Judging in Frederick, MD deducted points for not having the aforementioned backing plate painted black. I currently do not have mine painted and now have to decide to take off or let it the way it is. Why do I have it non-painted and bare metal? Well for two reasons! One, we know the fuel pump and plate were installed at the final assembly plant, not the engine plant and according to JohnZ ( “The fuel pump mounting plate was normally installed as unpainted raw steel. The Chevrolet Central Office Paint Standards Department issued a "Painted Parts List" to the assembly plant Paint Superintendents which identified the raw parts which were to be primed black in the plant's small parts paint system; if a part wasn't on that list, it wasn't supposed to be painted.” And “in NCRS Flight Judging, we expect to see the mounting plate unpainted.” Second reason, before finding John's information I had two fuel pump backing plates in my box of parts, one from a 67 327 and the other from our 68 302 and guess what, one was painted black and the other bare metal. After the research I decided to have our plate bare metal for the engine re-build and restoration which I completed months ago but now I'm not sure what judges expect to see or what is the norm. I checked my friends two survivors (68 & 69 Z's) and both of those plates seem to be painted black. Checked with a well known restorer of Gen I Camaro's and other GM products and he communicated he's seen them both ways, both painted black and bare metal. If I'm going to change it to black now is the time but wondering what others have found as one part of me says to let it alone and the other says change it to not get into any BS. Penny for your thoughts/ideas/findings! Has anyone had points deducted for not having their fuel pump plate bare metal?
Here are the two plates I had documented, left one painted, right one not:

Painted plate appears to have been dip painted as many other parts:

The painted plates bottom edge showing paint:

Now the fuel pump plate that appears to have no paint & bare metal:

Note the bottom edge of this plate appears to have no paint:
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