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Restoration / Re: 69 BB 4 blade fan bolts
« on: April 14, 2019, 05:10:51 PM »
Doc, picture of what our bolt heads are on our 69 L78 Nova which did not utilize a fan clutch from factory. Had to use a light and mirror to get a picture.



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Restoration / Gutting Original Y55
« on: April 14, 2019, 04:58:20 PM »
I added this information to my build thread on Team Camaro but thought I'd list it here for future use and if anyone has any good suggestions for battery to stuff inside the Y55 case.
The what was NOS Y55 battery I had added juice and charged in the spring of 2016 gave out on me when I tried to start the car to load this past MCACN. Geez, only 2 plus years, maybe I should have gutted it to begin with.  Luckily I had another Y55 but a later version that only has “DELCO” script and not the more correct “DELCO ENERGIZER” wording to install for the MCACN show. I did make several checks on that battery but it would not hold a charge so knew what the next step was. Was not looking forward but it was time to work to gut the battery so another smaller one could be placed in the gutted housing. There have been articles written about this that were given to me from a NCRS friend and a friend had gutted his original Y77 (Skip’s orange Z/28) so I had some information but one still gets a little goosey when you start to drill, cut, and remove the batteries guts. If you ever do this be patient and plan on spending several hours.

First thing other than safety items like glasses and rubber gloves was to wear old clothes knowing removing the battery acid might cause havoc. After removal of the battery acid I used baking soda to neutralize the acid removed and also mixed baking soda in warm water to pour in the cells which I did 4 different times working to neutralize the inside of the battery.

Took some 1X3 lumber pieces and make a simple frame to support the battery top posts while I have it upside down doing surgery and taped off both battery and frame to protect battery surface.


Placed some wire ties around circumference and made as tight as possible for support. Tools used were drill, Dremel with cutting blade, and assortment of hand tools. Marked one inch in and drilled corner holes and then the Dremel cutting blade to start the surgery.

What you see when you remove the cut out bottom and now the long process of removing all this junk.


After several hours its finally cleaned out and now to find what battery I’m going to use knowing some more clean out of internal ribbing will be needed, but the worse is over. Any suggestions on battery to use? The NCRS guys have used Miata batteries! More info forthcoming as we finish this part of the project.

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General Discussion / Re: Chevrolet promo key chain for Camaro
« on: April 13, 2019, 10:44:17 PM »
I found one in the defrost dust of my 68 SSRS 396 when I tore it down to do the resto years ago.


That was one interesting find!

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Originality / Re: Valve stems for Rally Wheels
« on: April 10, 2019, 02:18:17 AM »
Sorry Lloyd, did not see this thread until just now! Here is one of the original valve stems that came out and what I've observed on many wheels and the length I used on our DF wheels.




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General Discussion / Re: trim ring clip design
« on: April 10, 2019, 02:06:29 AM »
What is the proper trim rings for a 68 z/28 4 clip design. the outer edge of the rim kind(1st gen) or the middle rim with reinforcement ring(2nd gen)? would either style pass the 100 point system?
Assume you mean 1000 point bowtie class?




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Restoration / Re: 12 Bolt Pinion Yoke Strap Finish
« on: April 10, 2019, 01:38:16 AM »
Agree Lloyd, natural steel.

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General Discussion / Re: engine VIN location
« on: April 07, 2019, 10:31:32 AM »
Word has it that Jerry MacNeish has certified the car many years ago , after that at some time the Engine was rebuilt and Decked maybe i should see if he has any records of that. I am looking at $55K for the car
Should be no maybe about it concerning checking possible JerryM certified. From your last sentence I’m not sure if your selling or looking at buying! Personally I’d not consider buying with decked motor as it will always be suspect and hurts value immensely.

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General Discussion / Re: 1967/1968 rear center bumper brackets.
« on: March 30, 2019, 04:59:44 AM »
Mike, good point but when he stated center brackets I was not thinking Center Bracket that is riveted to bumper, but the other two on rear section.

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General Discussion / Re: 1967/1968 rear center bumper brackets.
« on: March 29, 2019, 11:49:13 PM »
Yes 67 and 68 same in rear. There are holes but do not remember them being one inch but the 68 front bumper bracket has that one really big dia hole.

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General Discussion / Re: 1968 Chevrolet Engineering Center Manual
« on: March 29, 2019, 06:52:41 AM »
This is interesting ......not for the price but pretty cool:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Chevy-Camaro-Engineering-drawing-42-inches-by-15-FEET/173848333716?hash=item287a2b0d94:g:S5UAAOSwhBpclslG
That would look great along the wall of where the 68 sits but yikes on the price.

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General Discussion / Re: Larry Shinoda's Birthday
« on: March 26, 2019, 10:45:11 AM »
A friend of mine and I got to meet and talk with Larry Shinoda at a big fancy dinner put on by Chevrolet when they were the featured marque for the 1987 Monterey Historic Races. He was by himself but was very gracious and spent a good amount of time talking with us. He was humble but also very proud of the work that he had done, and rightfully so. We really enjoyed our visit with him.
Those are conversations we wish we had a recording. Good memories to have Jon.

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Restoration / Re: Body Mount Tape - Width
« on: March 26, 2019, 10:40:34 AM »
How do you know that Chick? Is there a thread on the subject ?
Do I need a thread? Have u ever seen that on a survivor as I have not and looked at these white being sold on eBay years ago and determined the white being added clearly showed service replacement but again orientation would hide that aspect. My belief is it was added as the part # was used for other applications but never went any further investigation. Simple fix and only suggestion.

Chick, just wanting to understand the source of your information, assuming perhaps you were referencing a CRG thread or other notable work on the subject as there is nothing published by CRG on subframe cushion markings that I could locate. Most of the original / survivor cushions I have seen were deteriorated to the point where I could not reliably determine what markings they came with originally. Even if I could my sample size was not large enough to be authoritative. Only a couple of the NOS cushions I installed have the WHITE manufacturers mark but they do include the embossed PN#. Could this be a unique practice by a this cushion supplier? As for judging standards I've not heard of anyone receiving a deduction for using GM service replacement cushions which I assume are routinely used as the originals aren't restorable and mostly deform, collapse and sometimes crack after decades of exposure and compression.   

Just my thoughts Lloyd and yes one has to use service replacements but as you know some service replacements fit the bill and others changed looks and do not. Larry Christensen could best answer for the 5000 pt judging but I will stick my neck out and say with the white showing there would be some small deduction. Orient and no deduction for sure, which was my point. No worries!

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Restoration / Re: Body Mount Tape - Width
« on: March 25, 2019, 09:58:26 AM »
How do you know that Chick? Is there a thread on the subject ?
Do I need a thread? Have u ever seen that on a survivor as I have not and looked at these white being sold on eBay years ago and determined the white being added clearly showed service replacement but again orientation would hide that aspect. My belief is it was added as the part # was used for other applications but never went any further investigation. Simple fix and only suggestion.

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Restoration / Re: Z/28 Alternator Brace, the black one
« on: March 24, 2019, 06:17:48 PM »
My LH header has a 1" x 1" welded to the top of the header mounting flange. This is where you use the original alternator mounting bracket. In your original picture it looks like the alternator is too close to the valve cover. Does yours mount something like I'm describing?,,,Joe
It appears he has the reproduction Kustom Headers from what I can see and the same as what is on our 68Z and yes you bolt mtg bracket to the header. That was my reference that those headers do seem to move the alternator forward enough that mounting the black/orange brackets to the rear of the alternator as Jon showed lines up perfectly. But something was off much more it seems. But you bring up a point, Bill what mounting bracket did you bolt to the header?

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Restoration / Re: Z/28 Alternator Brace, the black one
« on: March 24, 2019, 02:25:53 AM »
Well, my aftermarket reproduction brace appears to be no where near accurate.  Not enough arch so it gets into the fan blades.  Who makes one that is correct?

Thanks,
Bill


Bill,
The problem appears to be the black bracket. It arches wrong and doesn't follow the contour and or bend of the orange bracket. At the very end of the both brackets to the right of the alt bolt the brackets should be uniform. Yours don't line up even.

Here is a picture of Chick's 68 Z28 as a reference. Maybe he can provide a better detailed picture.

Just an FYI also the alternator is incorrect and appears to be a later one with the finned or ribbed back, which has the built in regulator.

Thanks Dave, I was going to post two pictures to show similar but after I loaded on Flickr for some reason now I cannot open any picture to copy link to post, and now none of my folders come up. Pictures are there but can't do anything with them. Tells me "You seem to be using an unsupported browser." Geez! Thanks again!

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