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4156  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: 69 Invoice's on: September 22, 2007, 12:12:59 AM
Amazing Ed!  I only wish you had Los Angeles built cars too.    Cry   Keep up the good work!

Paul
4157  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 L-78 convertible on: September 22, 2007, 12:02:55 AM
I found a basket-case and need to determine if it is worth the cost to restore.  Any experts out there know what one of these would be worth if it was restored as a number 2 driver?

What other options does it have? = Automatic or manual transmission?, RallySport option?, cowl induction (ZL2) hood?, spoilers?, rally wheels?, L89 aluminum heads?, etc... 

Does it have any documentation? = Protect-O-Plate?, dealer invoice?, build sheet?, etc...

All of the above plus the overall condition of the vehicle affects it's value.  My estimate would be $70,000.00 and up if it's a true L78 convertible in #2 condition.  But don't buy the car because it's worth alot, buy it because you love it!    Wink

Paul   
4158  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 68 SS's on: September 21, 2007, 06:09:53 PM
Oh, these codes (L35, L48, M20 or any other), where can these codes be found (buildsheet, invoice,??).

Rob -

These codes can be found on both the dealer invoice and the build sheet.  I've attached two photos below.  One is an original dealer invoice for a 1968 Z/28 and the other is an original build sheet for a 1970 LS5 Chevelle.  You can see the option codes on both of these pieces of documentation.

Paul

4159  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1968 - Orphans / Re: 8N403071 - Muncie M21 transmission on: September 21, 2007, 05:52:14 PM
Sold 9-21-07.

Sale price:  $520.00
Buyer id:  karrz
Buyer location:  Webster, NY

Paul
4160  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 68 SS's on: September 21, 2007, 12:47:48 PM
In fact I'll take a 68's protecto plate with its computer punched VIN number applied to the booklet cover against any other production years cowl tag or paper documentation as solid documentation any day of the week Smiley  

Good point Pat!  I haven't heard of anybody trying to fake the punched vin on the '68 warranty book.

Paul   
4161  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1968 - Orphans / 8N403071 - Muncie M21 transmission on: September 21, 2007, 04:16:07 AM
Your Muncie M21 4-speed transmission is on Ebay.

Transmission case is stamped:  P8C12  18N403071
Seller id:  topmoreon
Seller location:  Saint Cloud, MN

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120161967651#description

Paul
4162  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: 9L529043 - L48 engine on: September 20, 2007, 03:04:49 PM
That's getting close to mine, close enough to make a guy dream of the day when I see that magic number come up............

Thanks for posting this stuff, it would be easy to miss.

No problem!  Don't worry, we'll find it one of these days.    Grin

Paul
4163  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 68 SS's on: September 20, 2007, 02:57:58 PM
So I guess this makes 68's the easiest "clone" of the first gens ?!?!

Yes, in a way.  But remember in 1968 all 350cid and 396cid engines leaving the factory in Camaros were Super Sports!  So if the car you're looking at has it's original engine with the factory stamped engine assembly code and partial vin on the engine pad it's a SS.  Good luck.

Paul
4164  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Pics of Original Trim Tags on: September 20, 2007, 11:43:30 AM
Thanks, Paul! The pics are great!  I have to ask, how did you get that straight on angle? Was the motor ought of the car?

Your welcome Phil.  The engine is still in the car (I'll send you an engine shot).  I just leaned over the header panel as far as possible and took the shot.  I have a SLR camera which makes it easy.  Also, this car has manual brakes, so I didn't have to contend with the power brake booster.  Let me know if you need anything else.

Paul   
4165  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 68 SS's on: September 20, 2007, 11:33:20 AM
Rob -

Read this:  http://www.camaros.org/diffs68.shtml

Paul
4166  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69 396 fender emblems on: September 20, 2007, 11:31:27 AM
Ejam -

Do you need one or both emblems?

Paul
4167  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: HELP!!! WHO MAKES THE BEST REPRODUCTION QUARTER PANNELS 69 CAMARO??? on: September 20, 2007, 11:23:53 AM
Here's a photo of a typical GM multi-stand press line of the era; more of the presses are below floor level than above, and today a press line like that would cost about $80 million.

Cool photo John.  $80,000,000!  Makes those $1500 NOS GM quarter panels seem cheap.    Grin

Paul 
4168  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Pics of Original Trim Tags on: September 19, 2007, 11:59:29 PM
Phil -

Check your inbox.  I just sent you some trim tag photos.    Cool

Paul

4169  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Pics of Original Trim Tags on: September 19, 2007, 11:48:31 PM
But all you have to do is click on the little white envelope symbol to the left.

Phil -

When your email address is "hidden" there is no little white envelope symbol to the left.    Smiley

Paul
4170  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Repairing/Replacing 68 Right Rear Window Regulator on: September 19, 2007, 06:46:40 PM
Dano -

The procedure is very simple.  Of course you will have to remove the rear seat in order to remove the trim panel (also very easy).  My only tip is to lightly scribe around the regulator mounting hardware in order to install the new regulator as close as possible in position to the original regulator.  This should minimize any adjustments you might have to make.  If you have access to a 1968 Fisher Body service manual, the procedure is listed step by step.  Good luck!

Paul 
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