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3121  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: opinions---CE block or close original on: January 30, 2011, 05:29:05 PM
I personally like the CE option but I guess I'm in the minority.

-Jon
3122  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: owner history of 124677L152451 on: January 29, 2011, 04:01:46 PM
Just have it noted that the car is a C-1 Pacer and that it was in the Chevy Pace Car book, which I assume you already know. No past ownership history.

-Jon
3123  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: RPO MA6 on: January 29, 2011, 01:41:57 AM
I believe Charley Lillard had a documented '69 Z once where the original owner ordered the MA6 and it wasn't built with that option. Not sure if that means it was never actually available or if it just was not available at the time the car actually got built.

-Jon
3124  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Did Interior Panels have Date codes? on: January 24, 2011, 08:33:01 PM
Yes, I believe they were date coded. Here's how mine were ink stamped (12437CLGR52) and the "52" coincides very well with the build week of my car.

-Jon

3125  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 2011 Indy Pace Car on: January 23, 2011, 11:37:30 AM
Regarding the looks of the new pace car, generally the car looks nice and the colors pay a nice homage to history, which I like. I guess what I have a complaint about is the style of the stripes. They are done in the style of a Shelby Mustang, too close together and running all the way down the front and the back. Granted, they are a different color than a Shelby but they still say Shelby to me when I look at them. My personal preference is to space them further apart and not have them run down the front and back.

-Jon
3126  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 AC Blower Motor Screws on: January 22, 2011, 08:19:34 PM
I don't have that info but here's a copy of the sheet.

-Jon

3127  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Body color on firewall on: January 20, 2011, 12:28:01 AM
No, it is white on top of the cowl, not a shadow. I owned the car at one time however now it is back in the hands of the original owner. The car is Tahoe Turquoise by the way.

-Jon
3128  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: original headers on: January 18, 2011, 11:26:00 PM
What's the thickness on that upper header flange? It seems thicker than usual for a '60s era header. The flange itself is not shaped like either the Bill Thomas '67 header or the Kustom '68 header. I've seen Kustom use two different style upper header flanges back then, one with straight-cut ends and the other with pointed ends. Both had square notched areas for the boss in the side of the head, and only one notched area per flange rather than two like these have. I don't know what these are. Maybe Jerry does.

-Jon
3129  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: original headers on: January 18, 2011, 04:53:57 PM
Show us some pictures of what you have.

-Jon
3130  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Body color on firewall on: January 18, 2011, 09:47:28 AM
What it would really take is for the assembly line photo to be in color to determine whether it is truly body color or not. I'm not a believer that it is body color.

-Jon
3131  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Body color on firewall on: January 17, 2011, 03:56:50 PM
Charley,

Because that photo is in b&w it would be faulty to conclude that it is body color. To illustrate my point, check the photo below of a '67 LA-built Z-28 engine compartment. This was taken when the car was brand new. You can see the contrast of heater box color to the actual firewall is pretty close to the same as the car seen in the photo you supplied and the Z's firewall is a shade of black, not body color.

I'm not saying a body color firewall could never have happened but it certainly would have been a fluke.

-Jon

3132  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: First Gen. Z/28 options on: January 16, 2011, 12:00:03 PM
vtfb68, hopefully the above link answers your questions. Lots of good info there.

As for the Jean Claude Killy '69 Z/28, below are some pictures from Michael Lamm's "The Great Camaro" book. Mr. Killy was the premier downhill slalom skier in the world back then and a very charismatic personality. Also paid by Chevrolet to promote its products. You can see if you look closely that the car has custom cloth upholstery. Also, the molded-in rear spoiler, the all-chrome rally wheels sans trim rings, the snow tires, ski rack, molded-in mud flaps with wheel well trim, unique stripes over the wheel openings, etc. I've never seen a color picture but it might have different color stripes other than black.

-Jon



3133  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 67 Tail light backing plates on: January 15, 2011, 06:24:29 PM
They were like a galvanized finish as seen in the photo below. They did not get overspray on them as the taillights were installed after the trunk was sprayed.

-Jon

3134  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: First Gen. Z/28 options on: January 15, 2011, 01:18:55 PM
Keep in mind that a ZL-1 Camaro was already double the price of a normal Camaro performance model, well into the 8 Grand area. To get one as a convertible, RS, a/c, etc would make it even more expensive and they had trouble selling them just as they were. Some got sold at discounts, other had the exotic engine replaced with a more pedestrian one, just to get them sold. Some special Camaros did get built such as the '69 Z for Jean Claude Killy and a '70 for Glen Campbell. If you were a high profile celebrity who could bring some prestige to Chevrolet, then something might get done. The ZL-1s got built to allow the engine to be accepted in drag racing. That was the sole focus of that program and in fact the black & gold deluxe version they contemplated was aborted due to the feeling they would be too expensive to sell.

-Jon
3135  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Carolina Blue/Powder Blue '69 on: January 15, 2011, 12:17:41 PM
There was Groth Chevrolet in Huntington Beach back then. They were at 18211 Beach Blvd. Some others were Connell Chevrolet in Costa Mesa, Guaranty Chevrolet in Santa Ana and Cone Chevrolet in Fullerton. People did not necessarily buy cars from the same town they lived in though. That whole area has tons of choices for Chevrolet dealerships and they may have gone to a place that had a large inventory or that they thought gave a good deal.

-Jon
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