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2596  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Sunoco fueling rig on: September 11, 2011, 10:57:32 AM
Yes, when you are putting 22+ gallons of fuel into a car in 3 or 4 seconds that would definitely be considered dumping and not pouring.  Grin
2597  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Recommended Reading on: September 11, 2011, 10:13:07 AM
Thanks for the further recommendations, Mike. I have not seen that last book before but like you I did get a lot of enjoyment out of the interviews found in Fast Chevys.

The update from Dan Lipetz as of this morning is the editing for the book by David Bull was not completed when it was originally scheduled to be. Then he (David Bull) was in a terrible motor cycle accident in late July.  Dan has not spoken with him since and it is unclear what his current condition is.  So, no book yet!

I had not heard about David Bull's accident and wish him well.
2598  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am photos on: September 11, 2011, 01:01:51 AM
There's a nice thread by "Javelin GT" on this AMC forum showing some nice photos midway down of some Javelins from the '69 Wolverine Trans-Am.

This particular photo posted by Javelin GT shows the hood up and reveals the taller manifold and aircleaner used by the Javelin team
at that particular race. It is obvious that the blistered hood is necessary for clearance.

Also, there is a nice short interview with Ronnie Kaplan on where he describes the special engine used by the Javelin team
to start the '69 season. This special engine based on the 343 block rather than the 290 and with a lower deck height, taller manifold,
dominator carbs, etc is the reason why they were so fast at that Michigan race. Sadly for the AMC team, somebody didn't properly
homolgate that engine (fill out the proper paperwork) so it couldn't be used for the rest of the season.

2599  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Firebird and the Trans-Am series on: September 10, 2011, 11:48:53 PM
Here's another article on the Jerry Titus Firebirds. This one is from my May '69 issue of Motorcade magazine.

2600  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Ideas to share concerning 1:18 '67-'69 GMP Penske Donohue Camaros. on: September 09, 2011, 11:59:26 PM
I was aware that you were wanting to replicate the things inside the trunk but somehow it did not register how the topside of a particular chassis is not typically seen. Thus, it is poorly defined or just plain inaccurate. You've got your work cut out for you!

I did find my 2-car Hot Wheels Trans-Am pack. Pony Wars was the name of the series, which I assume they no longer make.
2601  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am photos on: September 09, 2011, 10:50:02 PM
I actually wasn't sure if the '69 Javelins used the Dominator carbs or not. I don't think I have seen an engine compartment shot that year with no air cleaner in place. If you have a nice Javelin engine shot showing the Dominators, please post it for us. It is really hard to say what the definitive problem for the Javelins was in '69. They certainly did not have the same sort of year they had in '68. Nor, as you have noted, did they have the same drivers. If they had the stout 480hp as claimed, it sure didn't seem to translate to good qualifying times. There are also some races where one or both cars ran well. John Martin's car at this Mid-Ohio event was running very well until it broke. I don't think Ron Grable, John Martin, Lothar Motschenbacher or Jerry Grant were bad drivers but Revson and Follmer were better. Kaplan built a pretty strong engine in '69 but it did not seem to hold together like the Traco-built ones the year before. I think the bottomline is that Chevy, Ford and even Pontiac all seemed to step up their game and get better in '69 and the Javelins unfortunately did not.

Can you tell me what the reasoning was behind the '69 bulged hood? It looked like the aircleaner that year would have still fit under the stock "flat" hood.
2602  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans-Am Camaro chassis preparation on: September 08, 2011, 09:50:17 PM
Scott, In that first book there are some pages that have some illustrations of modifications that should be done to an axle housing (adding a panhard rod bracket, modifying a full size passenger car axle for use in a Camaro, beefing up spring perch welds, etc) and there is also a page which shows the instructions for a rear sway bar on a '67 Camaro. Beyond those, there aren't really illustrations showing the full rear suspension of a '69 Camaro.
2603  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Wheels used on Trans-Am Camaros on: September 08, 2011, 08:04:30 AM
Ron and I looked at that Penske wheel image a little more and it does seem like it probably does say the same thing ["C4 15114 BSM" on the small circular pad] as the one I took at the Sonoma Historics earlier this year (seen below).

I guess I will have to look at more Minilites as I run across them to see if it might be a standard stamping regardless of wheel diameter, bolt pattern diameter, etc.
2604  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Ideas to share concerning 1:18 '67-'69 GMP Penske Donohue Camaros. on: September 08, 2011, 07:28:55 AM
Mike, I will post more Firebird articles on the Titus cars as time allows. I suspect you may have them but others more likely do not and would get some useful insight by looking them over. Interesting that the rear frame is so poor and inaccurate on the Hwy 61 piece that you're having to go to the trouble to section in something from the Yat Ming version. It makes me want to go track one down to see how badly they botched the job. I see the Hwy 61 chassis uses the Turbo 400 automatic transmission crossmember. Are you able to source the correct crossmember from one of your other kits? I like that you are building enough extra parts and pieces to allow yourself some options right up to the end. I think that's a good idea.

Somewhere, I've got a two-car scale model package of the '69 Mark Donohue Camaro and the '70 Parnelli Jones Mustang that may or may not be Hot Wheels. I forget, as I have not looked them over in quite awhile. Looking at your 1/64 '71 Javelin on the shelf, my thought was that my two cars looked like they could be part of that line of cars as I do believe two other cars were available --- a Javelin and a Challenger. However, I never did purchase those two.
2605  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am photos on: September 07, 2011, 07:52:25 PM
The Autolite inline 4-barrel carbs looked pretty cool but they never got them to work very well, according to George Follmer. Also, SCCA didn't like that Ford might have an advantage with a special carburetor that others might not be readily able to get. That makes sense.
2606  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: YouTube (or other) videos of early Trans-Am racing on: September 07, 2011, 07:45:57 PM
Thank you Chad for posting that on Todd's behalf.

Welcome aboard, Todd. It's great to have you sign up for the forum. I look forward to your contributions and would definitely enjoy learning more about your dad and his racing career. Many of the Daytona and Sebring endurance races back in the old days featured Camaros and other pony cars besides the Corvettes, sports cars, Prototypes, etc. I don't mind you posting links to those old races. I'd love to see footage from the ARRC events including the one your dad won at Riverside in 1968. If you have any footage from the '69 ARRC A/Sedan race, I'm sure Scott (S A Dunbar) would appreciate seeing that. In fact any A/Sedan footage (which often ran against A and B Production Corvettes) would be a lot of fun to see. Thanks again for signing up and sharing.
2607  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Andy Porterfield Camaro on: September 06, 2011, 07:27:23 AM
Thanks, Troy. I remember when that car was for sale on ebay. I was intrigued by the Bill Thomas sticker on the windshield. I found out that the car was built in the early '70s by a guy from the Buellton, CA area named Sig Hansen and he competed with it in A/Sedan races. No Trans-Am activity. Speaking with Sig, he told me he had purchased some parts through Bill Thomas and they came with a decal which he put on the windshield. The car itself was not prepared by Bill Thomas Race Cars. This car was sold to Jay Parsons up in the San Luis Obispo area and later went to Tom McIntyre who raced it for a number of years before he purchased Mark Donohue's '68 Sunoco Camaro. Anyway, bottomline is this red #47 car is not Andy Porterfield's old car but I do appreciate you bringing it up as a possibility.

Below is a photo of Sig Hansen's Camaro as first road raced.
2608  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Ideas to share concerning 1:18 '67-'69 GMP Penske Donohue Camaros. on: September 05, 2011, 11:16:48 AM
Ah, I hadn't thought of those recessed areas as being something needed for hinges. Typically they're a pretty simplistic affair and don't have real scissor action.

I realized there was a significant amount of work to still do but 3 years???  Shocked  I admire your dedication. I never caught the fact that there is no sway bar of any kind
on the front of the GMP models. Pretty silly, especially when they have bothered to install a rear one.
2609  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Andy Porterfield Camaro on: September 05, 2011, 11:04:44 AM
Andy Porterfield was a Corvette racer out of Southern California who decided to try his hand at racing a Camaro, He bought a '68 Z/28, which I believe he told me was originally Corvette Bronze, and had Bill Thomas do some of the work on the car. The only Trans-Am I think the car ran in was the '69 Riverside race where it was painted orange with white stripes. Does anybody have any knowledge of whatever became of Andy's Camaro?

2610  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: September 05, 2011, 10:38:46 AM
I can't make out the writing on the side of the car but at least you can tell that a '70 Mustang convertible
was the pace car for the 1970 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am race.

1971 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am program
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