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2566  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Wolverine Trans-Am photos on: September 16, 2011, 10:12:03 PM
Thanks for the info. I got Ron's other link working. How many Javelins did Ronnie Kaplan's shop actually build? They built cars for Nascar GT as well as Trans-Am, right?
2567  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 mountain green code H formula on: September 16, 2011, 07:16:01 PM
No, it's an original paint car.
2568  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Wolverine Trans-Am photos on: September 15, 2011, 10:26:50 PM
Adding some AMC Javelin photos from the Wolverine Trans-Am courtesy of "Javelin GT" and "klvn8r" from this AMC forum.

This particular photo shows the hood up and reveals the taller manifold and aircleaner used by the Javelin team at that particular race.
It is obvious that the blistered hood is necessary for clearance.


Also, there is a nice short interview with Ronnie Kaplan on tajavelin.com where he describes the special engine used by the Javelin team
to start the '69 season. This special engine based on the 343 block rather than the 290 and with a lower deck height, taller manifold,
dominator carbs, etc is the reason why they were so fast at that Michigan race. Sadly for the AMC team, somebody didn't properly
homolgate that engine (fill out the proper paperwork) so it couldn't be used for the rest of the season.


Here's Bob Tullius' Javelin back by the garages. I believe this car of Bob's was one of the team cars from the '68 season.


My understanding is that Tullius' Javelin was an official AMC team car at the beginning of the '69 season and these photos seems to support that.


Ron Grable's Javelin. Looks like Ron is suited up in the car.

2569  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Firebird and the Trans-Am series on: September 15, 2011, 10:05:38 PM
Thanks, Bruce. I measured the distance between the upper set of holes and the lower set of holes and for the JL8 bracket the distance was 2-5/8" or approximately 66.5mm. For the drum brake backing plate, the distance was 2-13/32" or approximately 61.5mm. Looks like yours is unique.
2570  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67/8 Cowl Hoods, Factory? on: September 15, 2011, 09:39:17 PM
The hood came about because special raised hoods were in fashion at the time. They already had the cowl plenum underhood induction in '67 and '68 but in '69 obviously the cowl induction hood was used by the Penske team and others. After that, air induction was not supposed to be through the scooped hoods but instead drawn from under the stock hood. I'm not sure why SCCA bothered with that.
2571  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67/8 Cowl Hoods, Factory? on: September 15, 2011, 01:45:55 PM
I'm not questioning whether the car was missing the hood in subsequent years. I was simply replying to Dale's question about whether one of these hoods were optional on a '67 or '68. That's why this car deserved mentioning because it did in fact have the hood on it in the summer and fall of '68 and it was put there by GM. The hood did not truly become available to "the average Joe" until the '69 ZL-1 started being produced at the end of December '68. Of course, it could be said the '69 ZL-1 purchaser was not your "average Joe" either.  Wink
2572  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67/8 Cowl Hoods, Factory? on: September 15, 2011, 10:10:10 AM
Picture of car below with '68 Michigan plate on it shows Estes' car had the cowl hood on it. Whether that was removed at the time of "retail sale" at the end of December, who knows but it most definitely was on the car when owned by Pete Estes and when used to pace the Road America Can-Am. The window sticker that you have Bill is not what was originally issued by GM when the car was built.
2573  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 mountain green code H formula on: September 15, 2011, 10:00:48 AM
Ron, when I had the mountain green car I had to spot paint the lower valance panel and I used H-code Dupont lacquer which was still available at the time. I have no idea on what formula to use on todays base coat/clear coat paints. Would love to help if I could but I can't in this instance.
2574  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Ideas to share concerning 1:18 '67-'69 GMP Penske Donohue Camaros. on: September 14, 2011, 10:21:34 PM
It's coming along nicely, Mike. Very good progress and the bumper does seem to be better. I'm looking forward to your work on the rear suspension. No doubt some challenges await you there...
2575  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Firebird and the Trans-Am series on: September 14, 2011, 10:11:54 PM
Bruce's rear axle tube is not a Camaro piece. Looks to be Pontiac but I'm not sure if it's Firebird or borrowed from something else.

Below are the JL8 bracket and drum brake backing shield. On the JL8 bracket, the distance between the upper pair of holes is 3-3/8" or approximately 86mm.
The bottom pair of holes on the JL8 bracket is the same distance across (3 3/8").
On the Camaro drum brake backing plate, the distance between the upper pair of holes is 3-3/32" or approximately 78.5mm. The lower pair of holes are
closer together and measure 2-21/32" or approximately 67.5mm.



I'm going to take a guess and say Bruce's flange hole pattern is neither one of those and that might be why they had to fabricate their own caliper bracket.
Bruce, if you ever get a chance to measure that bolt pattern, let us know what you find out.
2576  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67/8 Cowl Hoods, Factory? on: September 13, 2011, 10:22:27 PM
For the sake of a complete answer, at the September 1, 1968 Can-Am, Sterling Moss drove the Pete Estes '68 Z/28 convertible (1 of 1 made) as the pace car and it had a cowl induction hood on it. It may not have been installed on the assembly line (there is no definitive proof either way) but it was installed on the car by GM, probably at the Tech Center. This is many months before any '69 got it.
2577  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Firebird and the Trans-Am series on: September 13, 2011, 04:57:52 PM
Are you asking about whether or not the axle tube tapers down where it meets the 4-bolt flange at the outer end?
2578  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Firebird and the Trans-Am series on: September 12, 2011, 05:22:23 PM
Great photos, Bruce. Thanks for posting those. Here is the GM bracket for comparison's sake.







2579  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: "Inside the Cars of the Trans-Am" and other articles on: September 12, 2011, 04:13:37 PM
Here's a decent article on the suspension and handling of the '68 Trans-Am cars from my November '68 issue of Car Life magazine.














2580  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1968 Bryar Trans-Am photos on: September 12, 2011, 03:44:13 PM
Another article on the '68 Bryar Trans-Am. This one is from my November '68 issue of Car Life magazine.







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