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2326  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Waterford Hills racetrack on: November 24, 2011, 01:31:19 PM
Waterford Hills is a racetrack that is about 25 miles northwest of downtown Detroit. It has been around since 1958 and is a short
1.5 mile course featuring continuous elevation changes (although not dramatic ones like you would see at something like Laguna Seca).
While this track was never one that was on the Trans-Am schedule, it did see a lot of action from people connected with the auto industry
and thus saw many interesting cars and competitive drivers. Since Ron Lathrop took many nice, color pictures there, I thought I would
post some here for us to enjoy. Thank you Ron for sharing these!


Photo by Ron Lathrop


Photo by Ron Lathrop


Photo by Ron Lathrop


Photo by Ron Lathrop


Photo by Ron Lathrop
2327  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Ideas to share concerning 1:18 '67-'69 GMP Penske Donohue Camaros. on: November 21, 2011, 11:39:17 PM
Mike,

Of the three, I have to say that the Firebird takes the prize. Your efforts on that car absolutely paid off.
I will say it again, it is absolutely stunning. That is not meant to disparage your efforts on the others.
Thanks again for sharing your passion with us.

-Jon
2328  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1966 Green Valley Trans-Am photos on: November 21, 2011, 11:22:02 PM
Here's the very rare poster from this race, courtesy of Craig Wheeldon. Thank you, Craig!

2329  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Factory 1969 Tech Center Camaro............. on: November 17, 2011, 10:58:16 AM
Thanks for posting that, Robert. I have heard of this "Agent Orange" car but don't have much information on it. I'll see if I can find out anything.
2330  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Wolverine Trans-Am photos on: November 13, 2011, 02:56:03 PM
Thanks, Robert. Do you remember how you guys placed in your respective races?
2331  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Ideas to share concerning 1:18 '67-'69 GMP Penske Donohue Camaros. on: November 13, 2011, 01:20:17 PM
Mike,

The car is just stunning, even if you say it is not completely done. Yes, the rear track could probably stand to come in a wee bit but I see very few nits to pick. Really nice work! Thanks for sharing that with us.

-Jon

2332  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Wolverine Trans-Am photos on: November 13, 2011, 03:14:46 AM
Michigan Int'l Speedway "RAM Regionals", April 27, 1969

Many thanks go out to Jerry Melton for his photograph contributions below.

Two weeks prior to the Wolverine Trans-Am, an SCCA regional race was run to see if there were any issues with cars running on the road race
course. This was a brand-new facility that had only put on one race prior to this. That was an open-wheel USAC race in late '68, won by Ron
Bucknum. The USAC race was run only on the oval and so the road course was an "unknown quantity".

Here's the winner of the A/Sedan category, John Martin in a factory-backed, Ron Kaplan prepared Javelin.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Notice the lack of the domed hood. This would indicate they were not using the special 304" engine which showed up for the T/A race.
Note also that the car is using a rear spoiler similar to the '68 Javelins, however this was the only race the Javelin team used it in 1969.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Here comes Martin's Javelin, going for a pass on the B/Sedan Porsche 911 of Erhard Daum. Both cars would be in the T/A race too.

Photo by Jerry Melton

The '67 Z-28 of Robert Barg and his co-driver Dick Hoffman.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Robert Barg (L) and Dick Hoffman (R)

Robert Barg Collection

Apparently they ran one number during practice and another during the actual race.

Photo by Jerry Melton

The '68 Camaro of Dick Lang, a Chevy dealer from Xenia, Ohio.

Photo by Jerry Melton

I'm not sure who Dick is waving at here.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Mark Donohue actually came to this regional race and drove Dick's car to get a feel for the track prior to the Trans-Am.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Another shot of Dick Lang's Camaro.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Notice that the side markers lights have been deleted from the side of the car.

Photo by Jerry Melton

The Camaro of Wayne Allen, from Indianapolis.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Wayne also entered his car in the Wolverine Trans-Am.

Photo by Jerry Melton

The Corvair of Bill Schmitt. Lots of tough competition for Corvairs in A/Sedan.

Photo by Jerry Melton

This B/Production Corvette, driven by Tom Simpson from Illinois, would be running a 327.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Another B/Production Corvette, this one driven by W. Mark Childs, also from Illinois. It finished 1st in class.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Ron Weaver in the A/Production class winning L-88 Corvette.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Looks like Erhard Daum's Porsche is getting passed again. Erhard would win the B/Sedan class.

Photo by Jerry Melton

The unusual Holman-Moody Challenger III ran in the A/Sports Racer class rather than A/Sedan. The driver is W. Scott Clawson.

Photo by Jerry Melton

The Shelby Mustang of Mike Murray out of NW Ohio.

Photo by Jerry Melton

The #77 Ford Mustang of John B. Addison out of the Detroit Region of the SCCA.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Ed Hinchcliff's Mustang got into an accident during this regional race and did significant damage to the passenger side of his car.
That damage was not repaired in time for him to make it to the Trans-Am event although he does show up on the entry lists.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Looks like Jim Harrell's Mustang was a Mach1 body that he was trying to convert to look like a Boss 302 (removal of the side scoop).

Photo by Jerry Melton

Jim Harrell's Mustang again. Jim was also in the Wolverine Trans-Am.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Brooke Doran's Lola T160 A/Sports Racer spins out between John Martin's Javelin and Dick Lang's Camaro. Martin and Lang finished 1-2 overall.

Photo by Jerry Melton

An article indicating who the '69 Javelin Trans-Am team drivers would be.


This is a brief article on the race and the results (winner only) of each class run. If anybody has the program, entry list
or more complete race results from this race, I would appreciate your contribution to this thread.


The track changes talked about below were a direct result of damaged oil pans which were occuring as a result of the
original layout of the road course. The cars for the regional event turned right immediately after the pit road exit and went
straight over the banked back straight. This caused them to slam down and smash the oil pans if they got going too fast.
2333  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Wolverine Trans-Am photos on: November 12, 2011, 02:15:50 AM
Other items, courtesy of Jerry Melton.






Preliminary entry list







Official entry list


2334  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Wolverine Trans-Am photos on: November 12, 2011, 02:05:28 AM
Exiting the esses and heading toward the banking...

Photo by Jerry Melton

Bill Ortega's Firebird leads another group of cars exiting the esses.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Dick Brown's Firebird works its way through the esses with Dean Gregson's Mustang hot on its heels.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Bob Grossman's Camaro comes through the esses with Mark Donohue, a Porsche and Ron Grable's Javelin right behind.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Don Yenko's Camaro leads one of the Firebirds.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Another look at Bill Ortega's Firebird.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Fred Opert's #73 and Bob Bailey's #52 mix it up.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Here comes Rusty Jowett's Camaro

Photo by Jerry Melton

Peter Revson's Mustang

Photo by Jerry Melton

Check out all the crud on the windshield of Tullius' Javelin.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Revson's smoking Mustang navigates the esses.

Photo by Jerry Melton

If you don't like doing body work, you probably should not be a crew member for Parnelli Jones.
Oh, and you probably ought to stay out of his way also.

Photo by Jerry Melton
2335  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Wolverine Trans-Am photos on: November 10, 2011, 11:44:27 PM
Mark Donohue on the banking.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Jerry Lagod approaches the banking from the infield part of the course.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Follmer's Mustang at the same spot. A nightmare if you get off course into the mud.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Peter Revson and Jerry Titus.

Photo by Jerry Melton

The Porsches of Peter Gregg and Gary Wright.

Photo by Jerry Melton

A different angle looking at the same corner (actually they are several feet back from there) and the roles are reversed.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Peter Revson's Mustang in about the same spot.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Now pivoting to the left to look at the banked oval section, heading to the S/F line.

Photo by Jerry Melton
2336  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Champagne color car on: November 10, 2011, 11:13:28 PM
I don't know. Looks pretty nice to me, and a Ram Air III also.
2337  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Wolverine Trans-Am photos on: November 09, 2011, 11:47:13 PM
Parnelli and Mark are neck and neck at the end of lap 1.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Here come Follmer and Revson.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Parnelli's got a definite lead now but Mark is right there.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Rain has come down and made for a slick racing surface. Here's Follmer's Mustang.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Ron Grable has steadily been moving his Javelin up from the back of the grid.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Here's Craig Fisher's Camaro.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Parnelli Jones.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Wilbur Pickett's Porsche.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Bob Tullius' Javelin.

Photo by Jerry Melton

The Porsche of Fred Baker and Dick Smothers.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Bob Grossman's Camaro. Randy's Rascals refers to car preparer Randy Randazzo and his guys. Notice the '67 vent window
on the passenger door. This car was built from two or three different cars from my understanding.

Photo by Jerry Melton

The combination of the slick racing surface and (literally) the leap from the outside of the track to the infield road course
has contributed to Horst Kwech's crash into a spectator's Javelin. There was one fatality and it could have been worse.

Photo by Jerry Melton

A second shot of the scene of the accident.

Photo by Jerry Melton

A third shot. There was not adequate protect for the spectators in the event of a car leaving the track surface.

Photo by Jerry Melton
2338  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Wolverine Trans-Am photos on: November 08, 2011, 11:35:17 PM
You're welcome, Chad.

Here's Wayne Allen's car getting worked on in one of the track garages.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Ron Grable and team members push his car down pit road early Sunday, prior to the race.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Penske driver Ron Bucknum with crew member John "Woody" Woodard.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Penske crew chief Chuck Cantwell, team owner Roger Penske, and crew member John Woodard.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Rick McDaniel, driver of the #32 Hol-Arc Firebird.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Carroll Shelby is in attendance.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Carroll Shelby with a couple of track officials.

Photo by Jerry Melton

Ed Houlehan waves the green flag for the start of the race.

Photo by Jerry Melton

More cars taking the green for the start.

Photo by Jerry Melton
2339  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Metallic brakes on: November 08, 2011, 11:33:09 AM
Yes, it is a documented J56 car.
2340  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Metallic brakes on: November 07, 2011, 07:03:01 PM
Attached are two photos, one showing the standard J52 disc brake caliper and the other shows what a heat insulator and piston from a J56 disc brake caliper looks like (but with some damage from being over 40 years old). What you would see in an assembled caliper is the face of the black insulator with the phillips head screw in the middle.

I can't answer why it was only available on the Z. Maybe they were so limited because the supplier could only guarantee the availability of "X" amount of pieces.
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