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2266  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am photos on: August 19, 2011, 01:49:40 PM
Re the Titus Firebirds running without spoilers, I believe that they turned up with aftermarket (ie non factory) spoilers, the front had some funnel shaped ducts, this was questioned by the SCCA, and they had to remove them before the race start.
 
Bruce.

These two photos found in Michael Lamm's Fabulous Firebirds book show the funnel shaped front spoilers you are talking about, Bruce. It appears that Jerry Titus is in the driver's seat in the one photo but that is Milt Minter's car (#37). It appears these photos are from the Bridgehampton Trans-Am in New York state a couple of weeks after the Mid-Ohio race. Michael Lamm indicates the Firebirds were allowed to run with these.


2267  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am photos on: August 19, 2011, 12:38:53 AM
There is no doubt that you and your terrific photos are greatly appreciated here, Ron. Besides the posted comments, I get private emails attesting to that as well.

Here's a Mid-Ohio Trans-Am race report from my June 28, 1969 issue of Competition Press and Autoweek.











2268  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Wolverine Trans-Am photos on: August 18, 2011, 09:54:03 AM
A couple of color photos taken at the Wolverine Trans-Am but found in the 1970 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am program.

Milt Minter's Firebird


Mark Donohue pit stop
2269  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am photos on: August 17, 2011, 11:18:46 PM
Selected pages from the 1969 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am program, courtesy of Ron Lathrop. Thanks again, Ron!























































2270  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Are These Items For Real ? on: August 17, 2011, 01:49:16 PM
You're welcome, Rick. I will say that the rack, or whatever you want to call it, is a pretty nice way of displaying those pieces.
2271  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Looking for 1968 302 Camaro, Sequoia Green on: August 16, 2011, 09:41:08 PM
Dan, I did ask a few people who were down in LA back then and so far nobody remembers the car. If I can think of others to ask, I will. Too bad you don't have any old registration slips or insurance cards.
2272  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Are These Items For Real ? on: August 16, 2011, 09:36:53 PM
Rick, I have not spent a lot of time on ebay lately and had not seen or heard of the auction. As for the parts themselves, it's pretty hard to judge anything by those photos. It would really be best to see the parts in person. The parts that are in GM boxes or packages certainly seem like they would be NOS. The headers? If they were NOS, it looks to me like they might be repainted or Jet-Hot coated in black now. To me, that is kind of a shame.
2273  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Looking for 1968 302 Camaro, Sequoia Green on: August 16, 2011, 08:49:54 AM
Thanks for posting the photos, Dan. I have a friend who owned his own used hi-performance cars dealership in the '70s down in the LA area and I will ask him if this car is one he remembers.
2274  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am photos on: August 16, 2011, 08:46:16 AM
Thanks, Bruce. I appreciate it. You're right., it does take a bunch of time to post and caption everything but the result is worth it. This is a great reflection on a neat bit of bygone history, and also a great research tool for those that are always looking deeper into the subject.

I will be posting more race reports from this particular race and also have upcoming photos to post of the 1970 Mid-Ohio and Road America Trans-Ams. Stay tuned.
2275  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Ideas to share concerning 1:18 '67-'69 GMP Penske Donohue Camaros. on: August 15, 2011, 10:39:20 PM
Mike, you are right. There are larger covers at the end of the season and I was just forgetting that detail. There are supposed to be headlights installed and whether there are (or are not) any behind those covers is anybody's guess. Penske might have gotten away with one. Of course, according to the rule book there were supposed to be windshield wipers on the cars also but depending on the race or car, many times the wipers are not installed. If you got by tech and nobody cared enough to protest, you got away with it. As examples, other cars that used covers over the headlights are Freddie Van Beuren's Mustang at Sebring in '67, Shelby's '68 Mustangs and Bob Grossman's '69 Camaro at Daytona (last one not T/A though).

Penske was never bashful about trying to improve aerodynamics. Witness the trimmed roof drip rail on the #15 car at Sebring in '68, the vertical windshield wipers, the occasionally taped-over windshield chrome, cheater spoilers, etc. The headlight covers could be included in that group.
2276  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1969 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am photos on: August 15, 2011, 10:20:23 PM
Thanks a bunch for the information and for posting pics of your wheel. Very neat item.

I heard a story about George Follmer at that Riverside race that you mentioned. I heard he deliberately crashed his car into the pit wall. Yes, I think the wheel may have already been broken but it has been said that he aimed it directly at the end of the pit wall to put the car out of commision so he wouldn't have to drive it anymore. Maybe he was irritated about the cars handling or some other aspect of its performance? Both George and Parnelli had well known bad tempers sometimes.
2277  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: A few different Cross Rams from the 2007 Camaro Nats display on: August 15, 2011, 10:10:53 PM
How about pumping up the size of the ones that you posted to about 800x600?
2278  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Wheels used on Trans-Am Camaros on: August 15, 2011, 03:28:11 PM
Thank you, Mike. I think those documents are quite useful.

Contact info for TPR, Inc can be found at http://www.tpr-inc.com/contact.asp
2279  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: A few different Cross Rams from the 2007 Camaro Nats display on: August 15, 2011, 01:20:19 PM
I heard the seminar was pretty good and I believe there was a video made of it. Has anybody seen it?
2280  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Ideas to share concerning 1:18 '67-'69 GMP Penske Donohue Camaros. on: August 15, 2011, 01:18:00 PM
Thanks for the update. Interesting insight into the thinking concerning the Firebird project. I appreciate seeing some of what you're working on with the '67 too. Looks like a lot of things coming together at one time but it is clear that "the wheels are turning" regarding planning ahead.

As for the '69 car, it's looking good. I wanted to bring to your attention that the removal of the headlights and covering the hole with a flat plate did not begin until the 1970 season. Hence, the stock headlights were still in the '69 cars but covered with sticky-back vinyl or tape.
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