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Decoding/Numbers / Z28 Axle dates, to build date
« on: August 12, 2008, 05:19:48 PM »
I have a 1969 Z28 in the shop. It has a trim tag date od 05A. The rear end housing was cast A 19 9 and the tube is Stamped 01 30 G1 with a BV code.  Is this rear too earl to be original for this car?

If you assume that the springs are original to the Camaro and that the correct application was utilized by the factory, can you see these springs having been used on a SS small block, with cowl induction, Tach-gages, console, and AM Radio?

Are you using the same weight factor for L72 as the L78?

    Thanks for the info. I have a suspected COPO Camaro, which has a Yellow front spring tag, which appears to be 3955725.

     Based on a process of elimination, and if you discount the original BE rear, MN coded engine and owner history of the Camaro, the most likey senarios are that the Camaro is either an SS 350 or COPO L72.

      While the HA/BA tags were used in many applications this tag on this particular Camaro, based on options seems to point in the direction of L72. (An SS350 would be to light for this spring based on the chart )

       Options: AM Radio,Tach Gages/Console and Cowl Induction, Heavy Duty Radiator.

      What do you think??



General Discussion / Re: 68 Z28 MO Block
« on: February 02, 2008, 10:35:46 PM »
Which is correct for a 1967 or 1968 Z28.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Front spring tags
« on: December 08, 2007, 02:59:24 AM »
Does anyone have a factory document or source for Spring Tag Codes?

General Discussion / Re: hidden vin numbers
« on: December 02, 2007, 09:32:46 PM »
Interesting topic. I just had a very knowledgeable Camaro restorer/enthusiast, tell me that there is a hidden/confidential VIN on the rear clip.

I had to tell him that in three decades experience, I had never seen the proof. Of course, no one knows everything, so I was excited to learn something new, as well as have a good way to easily determine a possible rebody.

Needless to say, I went to my shop and looked over several Camaros and found no additional Confidential VINs.

I know that some Mopars have a confidential VIN on the rear clip.

Is this closely guarded info or just miss-information?

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
« on: November 06, 2007, 03:26:10 PM »
Soon after the initial order of 24, in the 6 traditional colors, it was detirmined that they may not need (EXAMPLE) 4 Olympic Gold  Douglass Yenkos and the 4 were split into two Dover White and two OG. These Changes were made after the order was placed.

Both Dover White Douglass Yenkos are found and they are consecutive body numbers. Both have very interesting Histories. Milt Robson had one restored as found/Yenko Stripes and badges even though he knew nothing about the Douglass Story.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
« on: October 29, 2007, 12:57:45 AM »
The vin to the ebay car is inncorrectly listed on the Yenko inventory sheets as 124379N615016. The correct corresponding car and proper VIN are located.

Regarding Douglass Yenkos;

     While that is  certainly possible it is not probable.  Jack Douglass the Dealer Principal and Tom Dumass his General Manager confirm that thier direct order of 25 Camaros was with Both Copo 9561 and 9737 options. 24 were ordered on the same day with a black one being added the next day. More than 10 of these Douglass cars have been found and accounted for and thus far all have been Double COPOs.

      I was informed that no other COPO 9561 or 9561 and 9737 Camaros other than the inital orders were sold other than some direct order Chevelle L72s and two truck loads of Yenko Double COPOs which were ordered thru Yenko Chevrolet and sent to Douglass Chevrolet. There was also a '68 Yenko sold out of Douglass.

     Jack vividly quoted his number at 25 long before the Yenko Estate document was released to the public. He ordered 4 cars in each of the 6 traditional Yenko Colors a total of 24. It was not till the next day when they figured that since they were ordering direct, they could mix up the colors a bit and add the black one as well.

General Discussion / Re: COPO NICB info
« on: October 28, 2007, 07:24:34 PM »
We used to be able to get them from a member insurance company/or police authority. Back a few years ago the NICB would actualy fax an informal document with the Shipping Date and Dealer Ship to Name.

More recently the info was conveyed verbally.

Once in, the Key was getting someone to go back and look at the archieves/microfishe as the Computers did not go back far enough.

At least this was my experience with the NICB.

General Discussion / Re: 1969 L-78 convertible
« on: October 28, 2007, 07:12:47 PM »
Thanks for the input and advice.  The only attractive part about the car is that it has the original block with the VIN clearly stamped on it.  It also has the correct dated and coded 12 bolt.  It is a 4-speed, hugger orange, with black top, white stripe, and white interior.  What a great looking car that must have been out of the factory!!  It needs all new sheet metal except that it has already had new floors installed.  I'm leaning toward passing on the car as he wants $45K as it is.  It easily needs $40-50K to get it to #2. 

Not to get in the middle of your deal, but it sounds like you are going to pass? I would certainly be interested in any  real HO 4 speed original L78 rag top and willing to pay a birddog fee, if I purchase the car.


Stefano Bimbi

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