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31  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Crossram manifold on: June 03, 2013, 10:17:00 AM
great pics

I have seen those nozzles before. They were used by some to make a single acc pump Holley work like the double pumper.

The double pumper Holley 850 came out about 1968 and was used on the L88 Corvette then some clever aftermarket co. sold a kit called a
"gear injector kit". The kit had a acc nozzle conversion with the tubes going into the secondaries and a set of gears that replaced the vac sec parts.
It converted a Holley single pump vac sec carb into a double pump mech sec carb.

I have an old Holley 3310 that has the conversion installed.

That tube idea may have come from a Holley engineer working with the cross ram project?
interesting stuff

32  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Chaffey College and Sam Contino on: May 29, 2013, 08:48:40 AM
interesting info

also noticed in the original article it shows two shocks mounted above the axle and parallel to the drive shaft.
In the restored pics the mounts are still there but no shocks are used

I wonder if they were used to try to control "wheel hop" in acceleration and braking which was a problem in 1967 mono spring designs?

The 67 Z/28 used a pass side traction bar from the factory and the hi po Firebird used two traction bars from the factory that were mounted similar to those shocks but I don't think they were used on race cars. The wheel hop problem was said to be mostly fixed by the 1968 multi leaf springs vs the 1967 mono spring.
33  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 68 Z28 With prototype Cross ram sells for 100K At Mecum In Indianapolis on: May 29, 2013, 08:10:33 AM
has some interesting history "fender well signed by GM development engineer Jerry Thompson"

Jerry T.  raced Corvettes and was good friends with Don Yenko. JT also ran a 1967 Camaro with Yenko SportsCars and won a national SCCA B/P title in 1967 in a Yenko Stinger.

The 302 Z engine sort of evolved from the 327 FI Corvette engine used in SCCA

Jerry T. used the base of the FI unit to make the prototype cross ram

He did a seminar on it at Carlise a few years ago with pictures of it
34  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 black SS horn cap on: May 24, 2013, 04:46:27 PM
Ed thanks for all your great work on the steering wheel report and the others that you have done

This was one of the pics I found when reseaching my wheel

It is the 1968 SS 396 L78 black Motion Drag car in a 1968 article when they were  converting it for drag racing

They put in the Chevy service parts TA seats and other changes but you can see the original shifter ball on the floor and the wheel

I had posted it in the TA seat thread in the TA section

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7944.0;attach=6520;image
35  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 black SS horn cap on: May 21, 2013, 09:16:29 PM
I had a wheel with that cap and was researchng it. It had the dull silver like in 68 not the 67 style that looks more like chrome.
I believe they came on some 68 Camaros as I found 2 pictures of Camaros with this wheel center.
Both are new Camaros in 1968 car magazine articles

I posted a picture from one of the 1968 car magazine articles in that old thread
36  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Vintage Races, Sonoma Raceway on: May 21, 2013, 06:12:17 AM
nice pics thanks for posting
37  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Edlebrock 1967 SS TEST CAR on: May 21, 2013, 06:10:50 AM
here is a link from the March 2013 HOT ROD Homecoming in Pomona to celebrate the magazine’s 65th anniversary and Edelbrock’s 75th anniversary.

http://blogs.hotrod.com/edelbrock-reunites-hot-rod-with-the-67-camaro-test-car-48963.html#axzz2T1krieDW


on a side note, In the 1967 pictures it shows the early Hurst shifter that was used. It is a different shape then the 4106 Hurst stick that is used today.
I wanted one for my 67 so made one from the pictures using an early Hurst stick but then did find one after years of looking.
It was only used for a short time until the 4106 came out
38  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Sonoma Historics, May 2013 on: May 20, 2013, 09:20:43 AM
looks great

Tony D and OCF had some nice paint graphics on their Camaros and Corvettes
39  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: N30 steering wheel restoration on: May 20, 2013, 09:15:06 AM
some restore the wheels by doing repair and repaint

there is another shop that strips the wheel to bare metal and re-molds it using an impoved modern material

I read an article on the shop and they mostly did early cars but said they were building more molds to do some muclecar steering wheels.

The pre 1973 hard plastic wheels crack bad but I have seen some Chevy truck wheels (after 1973) that held up very well  so a material change
can be a large improvement over the 1960s hard plastic
40  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Edlebrock 1967 SS TEST CAR on: May 20, 2013, 08:56:55 AM
I found an old post I did on the the HOT ROD Magazine Test Camaro.
One article said the car was an early production car that showed up at GM proving ground in Mesa, AZ in May 1966,
was given to a few car mags for a road test then was given to Hot Rod for long term testing and was used to test fit many speed parts.
Later purchased by Jim Mcfarland who was an editor and publisher at Hot Rod

Someone said they saw the trim tag and it has an August build date so it's early but not May 66, maybe Hot Rod Mag got the car mixed up with a different red 67 Camaro?

Another article states that has many "firsts" such as.......
First Camaro in California. First Camaro road-tested in the print media. First street-driven Camaro with a big-block. First Camaro to gain editorial exposure in HOT ROD Magazine. First Camaro to carry an Edelbrock intake manifold. First Camaro to ever have a Hurst four-speed shifter. First Camaro in the 11s. First Camaro to take a test lap at Riverside Raceway. First Camaro to appear at an NHRA National event. First Camaro to ever 'beat' Bill Jenkins. First Camaro sent to Bill Thomas to get a "396" installed. (Bill T put in a stroked 396 so was more CU IN)

Also ... was driven by Zora D, Smokey Yunick, Bill Jenkins, and a bunch of other well known hot rodders/racers.

Vic E should get the full story to disply with the car, even if he has to pay someone to research it, it would be worth it.
41  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Edlebrock 1967 SS TEST CAR on: May 11, 2013, 05:47:43 PM
They did a bunch of articles on the car and it had many different engines in it over the years

They brought it to Bill Thomas for a 396 to run it in Super Stock

cool pic of it with a drag shute
42  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1967 "Pilot" cars on: May 09, 2013, 07:25:02 AM
thanks for posting the interesting early Camaro history

has any of the cars in the Jam Handy Film been linked to the info in the article?

youtube Jam Handy Film 10 part video series

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDAFR_l9s2Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXKjOEoBXHI
43  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Edlebrock 1967 SS TEST CAR on: May 09, 2013, 06:48:56 AM
are you talking about the red 67 Camaro Hot Rod Magazine test car ?

that car has a great history and is in many old magaize articles

 it is a shame they can't seem to get the story correct
44  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 396 valve cover ID on: April 24, 2013, 08:02:24 AM
they look close to the 69 Camaro but the dr side rear spark plug wire bracket looks wider then on a chrome set
I have.

Many of the BB valve covers look similar but have small difference in the spark plug wire brackets or temp sender wire brackets and locations or the shape of the dr side rear cover.

The dr side cover is trickey because brackets had to be correct to get around the wiper motor, power brake vac line , temp sensor location, etc

45  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Smokey Yunick on: April 24, 2013, 07:36:48 AM
Jon, I don't know if Smokey could have built a 69 Camaro for Tiny Lund as Smokey went to Ford in 1969
when Bunkie Knudsen left Chevy to run Ford he took Smokey with him

Yunick built a 69 Mustang with a 429 and a 302 for the Ford Motor Company in 1969 and worked on other Ford projects

Smokey's mustang
http://www.ponysite.de/smokey.htm
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