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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 4-Speed shift linkage, bracket, etc. - original component finishes? on: April 23, 2015, 01:35:43 PM
I disagree
I have been buying collecting rebuilding Hurst and Muncie shifters for over 25 years and over half of the ones I had
had the rubber on the forward levers or they had a trace of the rubber where it had been.
I have also seen the rubber bushings on unrestored cars
Some didn't have the rubber

I also had a NOS set that had the rubber

I don't know why some didn't have the rubber as the notched hole was designed for the rubber bushing
If they were not going to use the rubber, they would just need a round hole

here is a pic of some extra ones
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 4-Speed shift linkage, bracket, etc. - original component finishes? on: April 22, 2015, 09:18:19 AM
I have seen  forward levers that look silver cad with no yellow and some look like a yellow tint

some forward levers have the molded rubber bushing insert and some don't have the rubber bushing

the AIM looks like no rubber in the drawing

its odd because the hole with the notches was made to accept the molded rubber like used on the shifter levers

normally a no bushing lever just has a round hole like used on the Rev lever and on 67 68 Camaros

most of the forward levers I have seen had the rubber or traces of rubber from a worn bushing

3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: bolts that hold the shiffter plate to the transmission 69 z on: April 02, 2015, 02:57:19 AM
the mount plate is silver cad
originals are hard to find but you can buy a repop bolt kit
the small block kit has 2 hex head bolts and 1 button head

be sure to put the button head in the correct location as there is a pin in the Hurst shifter that comes out when in reverse and can hit the bolt if its not a buttonhead
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Shifter rebuild on: February 05, 2015, 05:39:01 PM
on the Muncie shifter rebuild, ask about the gate spring and retainer

I had to re-rebuild a few because whoever rebuilt it did not put in the gate spring and hat shaped retainer
they are hard to find and are missing on many used shifters

I had to make a my own hat shaped retainers because I could not find any and they are missing on my spare shifters
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: The straight skinny on post '65, pre-mid '70, Hurst shifter plating on: February 05, 2015, 05:32:52 PM
instruction sheet shows contents, part numbers, assembly drawing and info

does not say what finish was used
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: The straight skinny on post '65, pre-mid '70, Hurst shifter plating on: January 31, 2015, 12:38:35 PM
What changed on the 67-8  aftermarket shifter?

The original 67-68 Camaro Hurst aftermarket shifter has a two piece welded neck
Then in about 1969 they changed to a stamp steel neck and used it for 67-69 Camaros and still use today
now you get same shifter for 67-69 but 69 uses a different stick

The original Camaro Hurst used a curved stick and shifter is silver cad
I have an original with the stick and have the original install sheet that shows it
It was also shown in the 1967 Camaro Hot Rod Magazine article where they claimed it was the first Camaro to get a Hurst shifter

That article inspired my search to find one ,was hard to find as not many around anymore
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: The straight skinny on post '65, pre-mid '70, Hurst shifter plating on: January 28, 2015, 11:54:55 AM
I have been a Hurst shifter collector for many years and I know they went from silver cad to a black oxide color around 1970 -71 on the OEM shifters and about the same for some aftermarket shifters

on the aftermarket shifters, they would phase in some changes

for example the large Hurst letters vs the smaller letters or the welded stick vs the bolt on stick

for a the early Mustang and the 55-57 Chevy, Hurst kept selling the older version shifter with large letters and the welded on chrome stick
after some models were using the bolt on chrome stick

The 1967 and 1968 Camaro had 3 different Hurst aftermarket shifters
the original early 67 68 Camaro Hurst aftermarket shifter and chrome stick was only used a short time then was redesigned

8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Vintage 1967 Yenko photo's on: January 26, 2015, 06:26:50 PM
Yes , as far as I know all the 1967 Yenko Harrell Camaros started as SS396 cars
only a small number of early cars were Yenko built SS350 to to 427 conversions
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Vintage 1967 Yenko photo's on: January 21, 2015, 09:05:56 PM
the black Yenko from Central had the Yenko crest emblems added to it later in it life
They used the black and chrome Yenko crest not the 1968 style crest
There are a number of 1967 Yenko Camaros that had a Yenko crest emblem added during the restoration but no yenko crests are shown in the original pictures

When Yenko did the conversions, they removed the 350 V emblem or the 396 V emblem and added the 427 numbers on the fender. I believe they used 1967 Corvette hood 427 emblem. All the original pics I have show this but there may have been exceptions

When Dick Harrell did the conversions, they swaped out the 396 V emblem for the 427 Impala V emblem

Yenko converted the cars in PA  and Harrell did the cars in St Louis
a pic of a Yenko Harrell Camaro ys739
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Vintage 1967 Yenko photo's on: January 20, 2015, 08:18:52 PM
ED , great pictures

this is a Yenko SS396 to SS427 Camaro conversion so it is not the butternut yellow Yenko Camaro used in the early ad
it has the black tail panel and the vin is later then the early Yenko Camaros

The early Yenko Camaros were converted SS350 cars

this car has the stock hood with hood pins which is how most of the 67 Yenko Camaros were equipped
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / distributor mach adv weights on: October 02, 2014, 08:10:50 AM
there was a post asking about distributor weights but I can't find it

came across these

the dist shown is a 499 8M28 ,I had for 20 yrs and it was barn fresh then and I never cleaned it or anything
it still has the rubber bumper stop

I think it has original weights and they have holes in them

most of the 1960s weights I have don't have the holes and look the same

the other pic shows some other weights and each are a little different shape
the cad plated ones are aftermarket , I think the others are Chevy

the scotch tape tin is 1940s
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Hurst Shifter Adjusting Blocks/Rods on: October 02, 2014, 07:52:06 AM
had this problem many times

be careful as too much force with snap off the end of the rod

if it looks like the threaded end won't move, I hack saw a slice in it on the thin part parallel to the rod, not deep enough to hit the thread

it ruins the rod end but saves the rod

13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: My New '68 Camaro Z/28 Butternut Yellow on: September 16, 2014, 07:49:20 AM
I never liked that "walking the distributor rotor"..... method because the oil pump drive shaft is held on the oil pump shaft with a plastic/nylon bushing. Those bushings can split in half pretty easy when they are old.

I think the "walking the distributor rotor" method may put the old bushing at more risk. Would not want to risk that when all you have to do is turn the shaft with a long screwdriver to alien it. May take a few tries but I never had a problem with doing it that way. Normally drops in with the first or second try.

on your Z .. check that your points wires don't interfere with the mechanical advance inside the dist
I have seen where an engine would idol fine but when the dist advanced, it would pull on the points and cause a missfire
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Govt Seized Yenko's & Muscle Cars on: September 14, 2014, 08:26:49 AM
What I thought was very interesting was that Lynn Yenko (Don's daughter) was in attendance and commented in the article

"Looking out at the auction floor she paused to consider what her father might have thought."

I think he (Don Y.) would be very pleased, she said.

15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Distributor Questions.. on: August 28, 2014, 09:31:16 AM
the GM weights are different and will give you a different curve since they work on centrifugal force

I have 1969  1111499 8M28 dist in unrestored condition, that has holes in the big end of the weights

someone did a comparison of the weights using same dist with same springs on a dist machine

they did a bunch of GM and aftermarket weights and mapped them out on a graph and you can see the different shapes of the curves RPM vs degrees

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