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General Discussion / Yenko Volpe Pizzi Rose drag car 1967 Z/28
« on: March 04, 2008, 02:06:00 PM »
Does this look like a real Z/28 and is there any way to tell if it is one of the early Zs?

I donít remember if I posted this picture before on here but I posted it on a few sites. On a drag racing site, a few guys remember Tony Pizzi whose name is on the door.
They said he was a pretty well known engine builder from PA. and had a very strong running 68 Z/28 drag car.

Yenko made a drag racing sponsorship deal with Dick Harrell in March/April of 67 to run a 427 Super Stock Camaro (AHRA) and a Funny Car. So I wonder if this Yenko Volpe Pizzi Rose Z/28 could be one of the 3 early Zs Yenko had.

General Discussion / Re: One pricey '68 Z/28...
« on: March 04, 2008, 01:46:02 PM »
On the 68 convertible Z...

In the early 80s Vince Piggins gave some interviews about the Z/28 project and I believe that info about the convertible Z came from him.

The way I remember the story was that they needed some type of approval from Estes to build the Z. The first approval was on the 283 prototype coupe in late 66.
The convertible Z came later when they wanted approval from Estes to expand marketing on the 69 Z?

Somthing must have happened since the Z went from combined sales of less then 8,000 the first two years, to more than 19,000 Z/28s in 1969.

I am going by memory here and would have to dig out the articles to see exactly what Vince said.

General Discussion / Re: One pricey '68 Z/28...
« on: March 03, 2008, 11:28:01 AM »
I donít see any real history of the car tied to Smokey Yunick.

It is more of a novelty car with a valuable collector item engine.

Smokey did have at least 2 1968 Camaro race cars he built mostly for testing.  I do not think he won a race with them but did race them and set speed records at Bonneville with both a 302 and 396.

When Bunkie Knudsen quit GM and went to Ford, he hired Smokey to work on the prototype Boss Mustangs in 1969. Smokey sold one 68 Camaro to Don Yenko and one to another well known racer.
Don Yenko won the 1969 Citrus 250 at Daytona in Smokeys old Camaro and other races and ran it in some Trans Am races in 1969.

General Discussion / Re: Judging criteria for 1st Gen Camaro
« on: January 30, 2008, 11:39:08 PM »
are points deducted for original Dealer emblems or decals installed by the dealer?
Seems to be getting popular to put them back on restored cars now.

Restoration / Re: Hurst backup switch/
« on: January 30, 2008, 11:16:14 PM »
The Hurst switch mounts on a flat plate the bolts on the back of the shifter using the stop adjustment bolt. You can also use the reverse switch for a 67-68 that bolts to the side cover of the trans and uses a rod to connect to the reverse trans arm.
here is a picture of the Hurst switch and plate and instruction sheet.
 The switch pictured is an old metal one
the modern switch looks a little different

General Discussion / Re: New CRG Research Report - First-Gen Carburetors
« on: December 16, 2007, 04:44:59 AM »
nice job and thanks to all who worked on the carburetor report

have not seen those 2 BB for a long time
In the mid 70s I had a daily driver 68 El Camino 350 4sp and was trying to improve fuel mileage.
Replaced the 600 Holley with the larger 2 BB on a home made adaptor plate on a alum intake and home made manual choke setup.

Once I got the jetting right it Worked pretty well. Was very smooth like a fuel injection car with no secondarys to kick in

General Discussion / Re: 1968 Z28 rim opinons
« on: November 24, 2007, 05:23:00 PM »
I like the way minilites look on a Z 
I think they make a modern repop of them

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
« on: November 10, 2007, 03:36:05 PM »
I have seen the wht/blk Yenko striped Camaro and black/wht striped cars (clone) and thought they both look very cool

As far as the black Douglass 427 COPO, I don't think there is any documentation on the Douglass 427 COPO cars so I don't know how you can tell if they are all 9737s or had Yenko stripes installed unless you have baby pictures or original paint or sales docs.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
« on: October 31, 2007, 01:51:56 PM »
I thought 2 white ones have been found?

If he ordered 4 cars in each of the 6 traditional Yenko Colors for a total of 24 and 1 black one, where do the 2 white ones fall in since white was not a Yenko color?

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
« on: October 05, 2007, 02:44:35 PM »
There is a slight chance that there was a non COPO 9737 1969 Yenko Camaro sold out of Douglass Chevy.

Doughless was a Yenko Super Camaro dealer who also ordered some 427 COPO Camaros on his own and striped them with Yenko kits. It is theoretically possible that he Yenkoized a non 9737 Camaro.

So a car can be found with original paint and Yenko stripes and was a Douglas Yenko, as far as the original owner would know, he would have bought a non 9737 69 Yenko Camaro.
 It is not known if Douglass only used 9737 9561 Camaros for the cars he did.

This is a hypothetical and no reference to the car mentioned in Michigan

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
« on: October 03, 2007, 07:27:25 PM »
two quick checks are the 140 speedometer and the BE rear end code

It says "The Mod bod with the quad pod"

It think that was a 1967 era cool way to say is has a modern body with 4 seat interior?

I found 3 1967 magazines with an article on the Z/28 intro but none had the picture I was thinking of

I notice in these pictures the Z had a picture frame type front plate with Z/28 on it and in one picture you can see where it must have fallen apart as it looks like the back plate is there with 2 clamp strips.

also you can see the prototype rear spoiler that has a flat back unlike the curve back of the production spoiler

I think there was a MOD TOP car shown with the Z/28 in late 1966 at Riverside Raceway?

I would have to dig out the magazine but I recall a few Camaros on display but the Z got all the attention.

General Discussion / Re: Does anyone have any info on........
« on: August 26, 2007, 01:39:01 PM »
What is the story on the Cam Camaro. I see it's been brought out to shows over the last year but have not seen a write up on the cars history such as where has it been all these years, and what condition was it found in?

there were prototype Camaros that made it in some 67 magazines that had non production features, such as custom vinyl tops, that 1st Z with prototype rear spoiler that is different then the later production spoiler and others

here is a picture of the hawaiian Camaro

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