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Restoration / Re: Ground wire on 67 PS Rag Joint
« on: July 15, 2010, 11:53:04 AM »
I have two of those rag joints with the wire like yours, and both came from 69's with power steering per the tags I attached to them when removed from the cars. I have two from 67's with manual steering and they have the stamped copper wire John shows above..............RatPack.......................

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Restoration / Re: Ground wire on 67 PS Rag Joint
« on: July 13, 2010, 01:45:40 PM »
I have a couple original 67 rag joints with the ground straps, and I think one of them has the wire like yours. I have seen that style before but it may have been aftermarket. Give me until later this afternoon and I will dig through them.............RatPack............

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: 1968 SS hood ornaments
« on: April 17, 2010, 02:48:01 PM »
From the information compiled so far, it looks like the ornaments were changed to the "stack" design for the L48's shortly after the drawing in the AIM was changed on 11-6-67.................RatPack...................

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Restoration / Re: Script Valve Covers
« on: April 17, 2010, 02:44:42 PM »
Those are the ones.............RatPack............

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General Discussion / Re: 2 piece fuel pump
« on: March 26, 2010, 04:17:23 PM »
I have a new Carter 2-pc pump on my car and it hasn't leaked since installed in 2004. It looks just like the one installed by the owner in 68 other than it is new. I will try and get you a picture later this evening................RatPack...............

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General Discussion / Re: 67 inner pillar post moldings
« on: March 26, 2010, 02:49:28 PM »
John that is not correct, they sit on top of the dash pad in 67 & 68.

Dig383, I have a question regarding the car you are installing these in. Does it have the chrome metal side headliner trim, or is it the color keyed plastic windlace trim?...............RatPack...............

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General Discussion / Re: Trunk / seat board
« on: March 21, 2010, 09:21:28 PM »
The originals did not have the jute padding on them that the repros do. So as John said, black board towards the trunk side..........RatPack..........

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: 1968 SS hood ornaments
« on: March 16, 2010, 01:42:22 PM »
Kurt, vin to this car sent to you.............. 09E NOR 8N319*** SS396 has stacks....................RatPack.......................

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Rat,
NOS is often stamped / marked differently than production parts.

Actually those that do have stamps are usually just like assy line pcs, but the majority of the OEM NOS stuff does not have stamps or markings of anykind. I have found that early replacement parts are usually the ones that have a stamping of some sort on them and is usually not visible once installed. Recent puchases of NOS fenders, hoods, 1/4 panels, and even tailpanels have no markings.  Found one header panel that did have a stamping of 12, but  that is about it. I wish there were stampings on all GM sheetmetal to help identify them as to being OEM. Repro parts with GM stickers are starting to show up more and more at swap meets and on the internet for sale. Unless you know what to look for it will be next to impossible to figure out whether you bought GM or repro parts............RatPack...................

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General Discussion / Re: palomino convertible
« on: March 12, 2010, 05:53:48 PM »
WOW! thanks for the info, it has houndstooth seats in it now I never looked up the trim #'s to double check that. I went and looked and it was 721 GOLD custom buckets. What was that guy smokin? Ivory with black top and gold interior?

Oh that color combo restored is absolutely beautiful! There was one here locally (haven't seen it in a few years) with the mag style wheelcovers, white walls, and black bumblebee stripe. I had a chance to buy it in 1991 for $6500 and I passed on it because it was not an SS. Man was I dumb! Personally I would restore it to have a fun driver, maybe put a period correct set of wheels on it, and I would definitely put it back with the color combo it came with. You will get lots of attention with it in those colors because they are not normally seen at shows or cruise nights. JMO...........................RatPack.............................

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Kurt, not all GM sheetmetal has the stamps. I have some NOS 67 & 68 fenders that do not have any stampings on them. Seen many hoods w/o them also, and I use the the rear corners to identify whether they are GM or repro. If they ever change the repro corners to match the GM stuff then it is going to be pretty hard to distinguish which is which.....................RatPack.......................

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: 1968 SS hood ornaments
« on: March 09, 2010, 02:42:56 PM »
10E LOS car has stacks,  12B NOR car has stacks, both SS396.................RatPack..............

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Originality / Re: stereo controls in floor console
« on: March 01, 2010, 07:43:12 PM »
It is actually under U57 sheet A3 for the 68 models...................RatPack.................................

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Reading this post and ignoring the other sites this is being discussed, I have two questions for the current owner. Did he receive that actual report that accompanies the certification and does it state what Jerry was officially verifying/inspecting? Also has he even bothered to pick up the phone and talk to Jerry about his concerns over a car that he did not have inspected by Jerry before buying? (same thing Tom eludes to above) To the rest of us on this board, including me, the report, the issues/concerns of the  current owner with the seller, and issues with this car should be of no concern to us.

Now with that being said, I have a comment(s) on the picture shown above. This appears to be a very small area of weld showing rust, and when viewed laying on the ground in a driveway w/o any form of light other than natural light, this would be easily missed by 99% of the people on this forum. Post a picture of the car on a rack with plenty of light and lets see it from 4 feet away not 2 inches. The repair was obviously done many years ago by a body shop, not a restoration shop, probably to repair severe crash damage not trying to bogus up a Z. The signs of undercoating on the floor prove to me this was sprayed on there to hide the seam where the two cars were joined. I am not going to discuss the rebody issue but I will comment on a "clipped" or "back-halved" car as this one is. Repairing a car this way is common practice today, as it was 30 years ago when a car was wrecked bad enough to warrant finding another car to repair it. This does not detract from the value of the car in some peoples eyes especially if the car was restored and the repair was properly hidden. There are many restored "high dollar/rare cars" out there today that have been repaired this way and it would take a bore scope and a major disassembly of the car to find this had been done. This car here could have the issues fixed during restoration and nobody would know w/o looking inside the rocker panels, but then if the rockers were replaced it would never be known. Just my two cents worth to stir the pot a little.....LOL!!!.....................RatPack....................................

Years past I wondered why certain cars were "re-certified" or "re-verifyed" with each subsequent owner as to their condition, history, or what have you...... now I know why: You never know what may or may not have been missed on the previous inspections. There is one Motion Camaro out there that has three verification letters from Joel Rosen.........



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Originality / Re: Tire Question
« on: January 06, 2010, 02:45:58 AM »
The only Firestone tires that I have seen with the tops of the lettering towards the outside of the tire were the Wide Ovals. All other Firestone tires had the tops of the lettering towards the wheel. You can see in this picture taken in 1967 of my Dad's 66 Chevelle that the tops of the lettering is towards the wheels. He filled them in with white paint as they were just plain blackwalls, but were the original tires on the car put on those Cragar G/T wheels..............RatPack...................

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