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General Discussion / Re: EARLY TRUNK LID
« on: May 24, 2012, 02:39:44 AM »
Chuck can you measure the height of the hold down bolt for the spare tire?..........RatPack...........

General Discussion / Re: EARLY TRUNK LID
« on: May 17, 2012, 09:03:46 PM »
LOS or NOR car?..............RatPack..............

General Discussion / Re: 1968 L-89 Convertible on ebay.
« on: February 22, 2012, 05:38:31 PM »
This reply is just for Ed....  ;D

"flawless car" and its "restoration done to concours specs"....Train wreck! Here is what I see just from pictures:
- front stripe incorrectly painted, must have been done by hand and 1/4" tape instead of 1/8", plus it ends wrong behind bumper.
- 67 driver side mirror with a bowtie? come on!
- wrong front spoiler
- 1969 14 x 7 rally wheels with 67 center caps
- wrong finish on tailpanel
- black paint does not go into door jambs for lower blackout
- steering wheel is repro
- ashtray should be black
- two different style of window cranks on front doors
- jack base and lift mechanism should be gray
- trunk floor has been replaced with cheap repro as drain plug area has not been cutout and no plug installed, wrong finish in trunk
- cheap repro trunk weatherstrip
- spare tire mounted wrong side up
- Firebird multileaf springs
- shock / spring mounting plate bolts too long
- gas tank straps do not use rubber insulation
- generic exhaust system with wrong style tailpipes (not oval shaped)
- bolts on crankshaft pulley are wrong style and finish
- alternator fan should be silver cad or zinc plated, not black
- voltage regulator is mounted in the wrong location
- reproduction radiator and shroud. Should have original parts with this low of advertised "original" miles.
- w/s washer jar is actually mounted in the location shown in the AIM, should be further forward as other bb RS cars built that week in both plants are further forward.
- air cleaner is the $20 local parts store 14" drop base unit that the base has been painted black on. Very easy to spot these.
- lots of incorrect underhood finishes along with the overkill of crayon marks.
- wrong exhaust manifolds (no smog holes), missing the AIR system, plus why in the crap is the wiper motor silver?!?!
- doesn't have the silver horizontal ribs on the grill.
Why didn't he post pictures of the stampings of the engine, trans, and rear axle?

What I don't understand is why would the original owner go to Louisville to buy this car when Jim Reed Chevrolet in Nashville since it was closer by 75 miles or more. Besides Jim Reed would have more than likely been the dealer to have such a car in stock? Martinsburg isn't really a city, it is more like a wide spot in the road close to the TN/KY state line above Cookeville TN. Most people in that area were/are farmers, and probably at that time most of the roads were still dirt or gravel. Fake buyer's name, fake rural route number, and a fake city make it pretty hard to track down a prior owner would it not? I'm not even sure that town actually existed in 1967 even as an "unincorporated town".....

As for the POP, it was an obvious repro/fake call it what you will. We have discussed this car privately and I will not divulge the issues with the POP due to the counterfeiters out there trying to correct their mistakes.....RatPack.........

Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Andy Porterfield Camaro
« on: September 06, 2011, 02:39:41 AM »
Jon, I had originally researched this car when a car popped up for sale on Ebay about 3 years ago. They ended up not being the same car as the one on Ebay was originally a Grotto Blue one. I spoke with Bill and he told me about Andy's car, but when I compared pictures he had to the one on Ebay they were not the same. I am thinking he told me that Andy's car started out as a copper color originally. The attached picture is the one from Ebay in August of 08........RatPack................

That 69 RS/SS of John's is a neat piece. Very original, and has some unusual options. That is the first HD 3-spd with a console I have ever seen in a 69. I took lots of pictures of this car...........RatPack.............

General Discussion / Re: I think I scored on E-bay opinions please
« on: June 30, 2011, 05:23:49 PM »
The adjusting brace (black one) is not the same as the one used on the 302. The standard production brace bolts to the water pump where the one for the Z bolts to a threaded boss on the intake manifold. Looking at the pictures of the auction all of the parts seem to be in very good condition. The correct Z adjusting brace is very hard to find................RatPack...................

Originality / Re: Correct Belts (engine compartment)
« on: June 30, 2011, 02:25:20 PM »
69znut, I am not sure where you got your information but the "ribbed" or "cogged" belts were never used on any first gen Camaro. I don't think I have ever seen any Camaro from the factory with that style of belt unless it was serpentine...............RatPack..................

General Discussion / Re: CRG Homepage
« on: June 29, 2011, 12:03:46 AM »
hotrod, that car belongs to a guy in Seymour TN and it is currently in the July 2011 issue of Car Craft. You are right about having the correct "look", and it sports a complete set of Stewart Warner gauges along with an NOS Hurst Ram Rod shifter, Grant steering wheel, Hurst line-loc, and the aforementioned Lakewood traction bars. There are a few things that are not "period correct" such as the block and heads, but otherwise this car is done very well. If you are ever at the rod runs in Pigeon Forge you will see this car out cruising the strip...........RatPack................

General Discussion / Re: 68 COUPE FENDER ON BACKORDER
« on: June 28, 2011, 12:32:23 AM »
Unlike the 69's these fenders are not as easily modified to fit both RS & non-RS cars. To make the RS fender work you will need a set of headlight mounting brackets from a non-RS fender and weld them into place after removing the RS h/l mounting bracket. The 67-8 RS fenders do not have both brackets in place............RatPack................

General Discussion / Re: COPO Assembly
« on: May 25, 2011, 06:26:54 PM »
Is this the CK Spurlock car? I have a color copy of that around here somewhere. Years ago I was told that per Tonowanda records there were 7 L-72 Camaro coded engines shipped to the LOS plant for production use. There was a second possible LOS built COPO that popped up about 6-7 years ago with a CBC and it was similar to the Spurlock one but more complete, and only a few numbers off from that car.  I think Alan knows of that car..............RatPack.................

General Discussion / Re: Beware 9N675878 DZ/Title/Tags for sale
« on: May 24, 2011, 06:02:05 PM »
Yep already flagged! I cannot believe these guys have the guts to openly advertise stuff like this on the internet...............RatPack............

Maintenance / Re: 69z with petronix ignition
« on: May 23, 2011, 03:01:40 PM »
The new repro tachs I don't think can handle the breakerless ignitions and neither can originals. Eventually you will burn the tach up. Check with John at Redline Gauges to see if he can rebuild your existing tach to handle the Pertronix ignition. I had my original Stewart Warner tach rebuilt by him with the new electronics and it works fine with the Pertronix kit in my stock distributor..........RatPack..........

Restoration / Re: 1969 z28 trunk cardboard seperator
« on: May 14, 2011, 02:19:00 PM »
New ones are made to fit all three years as 67's don't have them. You will have to cut the slots into the new one for your 69...........RatPack.............

Decoding/Numbers / Re: RPO MA6
« on: April 28, 2011, 04:15:58 PM »
The heavy duty dual disc clutch RPO W37 was offered by Oldsmobile in 71 & 72. In 71 it only required the M20 or M22 option & 442, but in 72 they made it engine specific with the L75 & L77 engines in any model of Cutlass with the M20 trans.............RatPack..................

Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Wheels used on Trans-Am Camaros
« on: April 18, 2011, 04:49:10 PM »
Jon, yes the regular Torq Thrusts were made in aluminum in the 8-1/2" widths (no such thing as an 8" Torq Thrust in aluminum), but the Torq Thrust "D" was never made in any width wider than 7" in aluminum.  The magnesium versions were offered in more widths, but only in 15" & 16" diameters. The regular Torq Thrust wheels would not clear disc brakes calipers on the Corvette w/o the use of a spacer so in 1965 American came out with the "D" (disc brakes) just for those applications. Then that wheel was sold to anyone with a 67-68 GM car that had disc brakes, along with any Mopar having them also. What is funny is that the modern version of the Torq Thrust "D" that came out in 1988 will not clear the GM 4-piston caliper disc brakes like the original wheel did................RatPack..................

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