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Originality / Re: 1968 Camaro Window Crank Knob Color
« on: July 27, 2012, 03:21:57 AM »
While doing some research for Lane earlier today, it occurred to me that 69's never used anything but clear knobs on two different handles: 9715291 on the front, and 9717838 for rear. The "291" handle was used in 68 front and rear, deluxe or std interior, with interior color keyed knobs. So that 1969 handle I used for a comparison may possibly be a service replacement as it was the only black knob one I had on the 291 handle. I have a lot of original clear knobs on the 291 handle and I didn't use them for comparison because the ribs didn't show up in the pictures. Here is a picture showing the backs of the handles with the same cast number, but definitely different in the cavity of the handle area.

Chick, I will try to keep an open mind about this as I could only see it being possible in a black interior car only, otherwise that car has had them changed sometime in the past. I would like to see the cast numbers from the backs of each handle.......................RatPack................

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Originality / Re: 1968 Camaro Window Crank Knob Color
« on: July 26, 2012, 01:25:05 AM »
Nice pictures. Those will help me also...Joe
Ratpack....
THANK YOU for the effort, information and contribution !!
Nice Job !!
Lane 68 ;D


You are welcome, glad to help out guys.....RatPack.............

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Originality / Re: 1968 Camaro Window Crank Knob Color
« on: July 25, 2012, 04:28:24 PM »
Lane, here are comparisons of the 68 knob vs the 69-up knob. Besides the number of "ribs" on the knob the OD became smaller at roughly 1-5/16" from the 1968 diameter of 1-11/32". I checked to see if I had any NOS window cranks laying around to compare to the 69-up one I have, but no luck.....RatPack.......................

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Originality / Re: 1968 Camaro Window Crank Knob Color
« on: July 21, 2012, 07:22:10 PM »
The knobs on the current GM handles are not correct for the 68's. They do not have the correct "ribs" on the outer edges (area you grip).................RatPack....................

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Originality / Re: Brake & Gas Liine Clip 3881339
« on: July 21, 2012, 07:19:36 PM »
All of the ones I have are a grey/black phosphate......I put them on my car that way too.........RatPack...................

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Originality / Re: 69 Spring Tags
« on: July 20, 2012, 07:36:30 PM »
You were the one hyping the Blue print on the YF tag!!!  I also realize Jerry's book says the same. 

Don, I wasn't hyping the blue print, just repeated what Jerry said in his book. Then I found this spring tag last night........... :P ;D ................

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Restoration / Re: 67 bench seat parts
« on: July 20, 2012, 04:06:11 PM »
Those plastic parts are made of unobtainium!!! I may have the rear piece that covers the back of the armrest but I will have to look. I have had around a dozen of these seats and the plastic parts are usually broken or missing....................RatPack....................

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Originality / Re: 69 Spring Tags
« on: July 20, 2012, 03:52:15 PM »
Well I am going to throw a monkey into the wrench regarding the lettering color of the YF spring tag. Got the original off of the 02D SS that the rear tag came from and the lettering looks black to me, not dark blue. It also has that small font for the part number like the one for the BK code rear spring................RatPack.....................

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Originality / Re: 69 Spring Tags
« on: July 17, 2012, 03:13:08 AM »
Don, the BK spring is a rear spring and was used in some of the SS396 and COPO cars. The pieces I have shown above came from an 02D NOR SS396. Is there any way to make the print look more like it was "stamped" like the originals?..............RatPack...............

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Originality / Re: 69 Spring Tags
« on: July 17, 2012, 01:57:35 AM »
Don, there was only one front spring tag with dk.blue lettering per Jerry's book. The colors for the 69 front coil springs are as follows:

3955720 - YF - light blue background with dk.blue lettering
3955721 - YH - light blue background with black lettering
3925814 - EY - light blue background with black lettering
3955724 - HQ - light blue background with black lettering
3955728 - HW - light blue background with black lettering

The following 1969 rear mulitleaf spring tags are all silver with black lettering:
3955740- BK *note the attached picture and how the font of the part number is different than other springs.
3934894 - BM
3955729 - BP

I have some other coil and leaf spring tags around here somewhere, but it may take a few days to find them............RatPack........................







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Originality / Re: Looking for another decal project to consider
« on: July 12, 2012, 12:29:56 PM »
Don, we need to talk! Check your private messages...............RatPack.................

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Originality / Re: Looking for another decal project to consider
« on: July 11, 2012, 10:43:24 PM »
Don, I have not checked but maybe some wise members here will know about the coil are rear spring tags being correct or not. Thought I have read that the repros are not correct but not 100% sure or do I have anything to compare to.

I haven't seen anyone doing 100% correct leaf or coil spring decals for the first gen Camaro. The ones out there today are printed on a vinyl/plastic type of material and are way to glossy. Most are not even the correct colors, especially the 69 mulit leaf "BM" code stickers. The originals are a cloth/paper type material in silver and have black lettering; the repros are yellow with black lettering and there is one that doesn't even have the correct font! Don I would love to see someone make these decals correctly. I may be able to supply with originals to make repros for certain applications......................RatPack............................


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Restoration / Re: tag on coil spring.
« on: July 11, 2012, 02:51:13 PM »
Spring tag from the unrestored 68 at the Camaro Nat's this year. I got this picture while it was on the lift..............RatPack.............

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Originality / Re: Temperature Switch Wire Retainer Part Number
« on: July 11, 2012, 01:27:38 AM »
The way the wire runs through the one in your pic is not correct.  Someone did some "repair".

Actually that is the way that wire is supposed to attach to the retaining clip. The tape was just used as an extra way of securing the wire to the clip. I think he has the correct clip, just needs to add the correct tape to each end.....................RatPack.......................

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Originality / Re: Temperature Switch Wire Retainer Part Number
« on: July 09, 2012, 05:20:57 PM »
I just threw away a complete forward lamp harness from a 68 L-6 and there were the remains of a clip just like that on the sending unit wire. It had black tape wrapped around each end where the wire passes thru. Check with the guys at M&H Electric as they have all of the blueprints from GM regarding wiring harnesses as they may sell you just that clip w/o having to buy a complete harness. Their part number for the non-RS L6 forward lamp harness is 11825. Here is their website:  www.wiringharness.com ..............RatPack..............

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