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16  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Hot August Nights on: August 05, 2013, 06:06:42 PM
I will have my red 70  RS/SS 396 at Grand Sierra.
17  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / 1968 parchment interior? on: July 20, 2013, 04:59:28 PM
  Hi everyone,
 
   I was wondering about 68 deluxe parchment interior;  My questions concern a Grotto Blue convertible; First would the dash (around the gauges glove box door area; not the top by the VIN)  be Grotto blue like the body? or black? How about the dash pad?  I know the seats, door panels, and rear arm rest area would be parchment but what carpet would it have blue or black? Last what color would the steering column be?

Thanks
18  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1967 RS on: July 17, 2013, 11:05:35 PM
Others will chime in but I believe that the 4P code didn't show up until later then you November build date.
19  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: L48/M35 ZL2 air cleaner finish opinion on: July 07, 2013, 10:43:06 PM
Can't commit on if the color is correct but it sure looks pretty to me!
20  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / 69 302 on: June 30, 2013, 11:06:16 PM
Maybe this will help reunite a car and engine. I don't know anything about it other then what the add says. It's not mine but hope it can help someone.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/pts/3895624452.html

21  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: early vs. late 68 Front spoiler on: June 01, 2013, 09:35:39 PM
my next question is do the correct ones bend as driving down the road?  I have seen a few cars mustangs, cuda's and others where as they are driving down the highway the front spoiler is all bent out of shape from the air hitting it. Always looked bad to me and while I want my car to be correct I don't want to look like a cheap Ford or Mopar L.O.L..

22  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: early vs. late 68 Front spoiler on: June 01, 2013, 03:35:36 PM
Does anyone have a picture of both spoilers installed?  I thought there were two different ones also, but if not I would like to see how both fit and look.
23  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / How rare is tripple blue 68? on: March 22, 2013, 03:57:23 PM
  I just picked up a 68 convertible that is triple blue: blue body (grotto blue), blue top, blue interior. Does anyone know how common this combination is? Or can someone tell me how many are in the data base? The car I picked up has no drive train and I'm going to make it a nice cruiser but was considering a switch to white (ivory) top and interior being it is not original anyway. However if the triple blue is uncommon I might go back to that. Does anyone have photos of a grotto blue, blue top, blue interior 68 to share?  I would like to see what it would look like.

Thanks in advance
24  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / convertible glass ? on: March 09, 2013, 02:32:56 PM
 I have a question about glass in convertibles; I tried a search but couldn't find an answer.

I know the windshield is different but is the door and quarter window glass different also? or are they the same as coupe glass?

thanks in advance
25  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 L48 - 2 or 4 bolt mains on: February 24, 2013, 08:31:02 PM
I have had several 67-72 L48's out of Camaro's, Chevelle's, Nova's, Monte Carlos,  and full sized chevys. I'm not going to say they didn't exist in 2 bolt mains, but all of the 67 to 70 blocks I have seen were 4 bolt. Starting in 71 and up I have seen both 4 and 2 bolt, but more of the two bolt variety.  A couple of years back I sold a 71 SS 350 Camaro it was a two bolt, and I at present have a 2 bolt L48 out of a 71 Monte Carlo. I always thought that it might have had something to do with the drop in compression ratio that started in 71 on H/P engines.
26  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Clones, tributes, recreations.. on: January 12, 2013, 12:24:06 AM
As a younger guy in the hobby (31), I feel lucky to have CRG as a resource for our cars. Even luckier that I have (and drive regularly in the summer) my dad's Z28 he bought new and kept all these years. I've often argued that the collector car hobby will die a slow death, namely because of the price of the cars (older guys selling them, youth not interested to buy nor have the means). But I'm not so sure anymore. I do with my kids as my parents did with me, go to car shows, summer cruises, keep them interested in the cars. I feel like the torch will continue to be passed.

As far as clones/tributes/recreations go, we shouldn't discourage that at all. I'm no better for having a real Z than the guy who has a clone. In essence, the guy with the clone is just trying to enjoy the hobby he otherwise might now be able to. Where a line should be draw (and has been for the most part, in thanks to CRG and TC), is to point out the 'clone' cars intentionally passed as real.

And you old timers, keep up the good work. Maintaining the history of these wonderful cars is in your hands, until the young guys are willing to learn from you anyway.


   I agree with what you are saying and I have nothing against clones or tribute or what ever as long as people are up front about it.

   I do feel that in time these cars (67 to 72 muscle cars) will fade away some what from being the hot ticket.  I remember in the late 70's and early 80's when Camaro's were for the most part no big deal.  At the time the hot ticket to restore or mod was 55 to 57 chevys. I knew a guy in Alabama when I was stationed there in the army and he had 3 69 Z/28's sitting in his yard. None of them were close to perfect but all three ran and were easily restore able and in my 4 years down there I tried on many occasions to persuade him to sell me one of them or all. However he was using them to resto-mod a 55 hard top, a nomad, and a 57 hard top so he ended up pulling the drive trains to put into those. Then he parted out the rest of the cars and scrapped what the shells. But that was the way it was then. 
27  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Clones, tributes, recreations.. on: January 10, 2013, 11:07:04 PM
I certainly don't want to create a long discussion here, just a comment about our hobby in general. I've enjoyed searching through Ebay for many years looking at only first generation Camaros. (And a few other makes and models). I'm just really getting tired of all the clones, tributes, and recreations. I realize cloning is a good way to enjoy a rare Camaro without the real worry of wrecking it, and that's fine. But we've gone overboard. Now, these so-called classic car dealers are doing it. Complete with fake trim tags.  I don't consider them enthusiasts. I find it sad what is happening to the hobby. I bought my first 67 Camaro in 1982 and I remember back in the 80's how we drooled over  Z's, Yenkos. etc. But now, there are so many well-done clones, when I see a real one is kind of like 'so what?' I'm just saying, I think we've over-indulged. Too many people wanting everything. Over-demand. It's killing the Camaro hobby for me. Just my thoughts anyway..


   I agree with a lot of this.  I remember when this was a working mans; blue collar hobby. When a lot of the fun was scrounging around junk yards and swap meets for those elusive parts.  Now you can find most as reproduction, or click on e-bay and spend a large chunk of money and have it. One thing with ebay is are you getting real parts or restamped sometimes it is hard to tell.

   And I totally agree that it has taken a lot of fun out of it.

  As for the doubters I feel like others have said. I know that my 68 is a Z/28 and not a clone or whatever term someone wants to use; and if the doubters don't believe it then too bad because I bought it for me to enjoy not to convince someone else of what it is.
28  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Exterior Door Handle - Chrome on: September 26, 2012, 09:53:23 PM
I'm not aware of any GM chrome parts that were show chrome back in the day including door handles.

  I agree, the sad thing in this day and age is if you don't have the show chrome when you go to a show your original car looks not a nice as the one next to it with the show chrome.
29  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: luggage rack on: September 01, 2012, 10:40:38 AM
There was a time (early 70's) when I used to see a lot of them even seen them on early second gens. but I haven't seen one in years. Have no idea on the value.
30  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Do trim tag and VIN line up on: August 25, 2012, 02:02:14 PM
OOoops!   "Oldzimers" moment,  been checking out 2 different cars at same time.  Got confused.

I understand easy to do, I just wanted to make sure I was correct on the Hugger orange, my mind isn't what it once was.


anyone ever seen a firewall that looks like that?  The hole for the heater box looks way to large to me. 
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