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916  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 kick panels - 2 types which is original/correct. on: July 18, 2008, 11:07:27 AM
both are correct depending on when your car was built... I believe the chage from 2 piece to one piece was around Jan...
917  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Nova Frame versus Camaro on: July 18, 2008, 08:39:14 AM
68 to 72 Nova and 67-69 Camaro will physically interchange... there are some subtle differences...
918  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Part of suffix code/assembly date cut off under cylinder head....Possible? on: July 17, 2008, 01:41:17 PM
Correct me if I am wrong...

The JE would be towards the front of the engine with the cotter key pointing towards the lifter valley... so the tab sticks out the bottom and acts as a stop from the left side of the stamp pad? 
919  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Clarifications on the Assembly process... on: July 17, 2008, 11:41:41 AM
That is my question William...
According to the CRG assembly report the dash was sprayed prior to white in the cowl... thus there would be no black over white... however I want to figure out if later in the year there was an additional step inserted to alleviate the heavy white overspray ie. Did the later white stripe Z's go through the repair booths twice?
The first time for the white stripes then a second time for an additional black out procedure over the white overspray?

Correct me if I am wrong but I believe I read somewhere that in March of 69 the heavy overspray on firewall issue was supposed to have been cured.

This is interesting because I had the 04C survivor and now am doing a 10D (early) Z... and the back of the cowl grille on the black car is painted white... however on the blue car it is body color. The blue car also had much more white overspray... everywhere it seemed like... and did not appear to have black at the base of the windshield...
Anyone have an early Z white striped original paint survivor they would be willing to pull the cowl vent panel off and look at the base of the windshield and see if it has any black overspray on the white? 
920  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Trunk Lid Seal on: July 17, 2008, 11:26:45 AM
On unrestored cars with original trunk seals there is usually an orange mark on the trunk seal... denoting the center... on the car's trunk lip there was a hash mark to the right of center... align the orange mark on the hash mark and insert the seal... when done the seal will meet to the left of the trunk latch...

You can't see the hash mark on the jamb in the photo but the orange mark is clear...

921  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Clarifications on the Assembly process... on: July 17, 2008, 01:55:32 AM
Working on an early 69 Z right now (10D) and doing the dash and cowl... was there a differnence in black out procedures or dash painting from early to late... did anything change?
Was there an additional black out procedure after the spraying of the White in the wiper well?

On the Black 04C Survivor the white in the wiper well had black out overspray on it at the base of the windshield.
Was this additional black out part of the change brought about to eliminate the excessive white overspray on the early white striped cars?





922  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Part of suffix code/assembly date cut off under cylinder head....Possible? on: July 17, 2008, 01:26:01 AM
Big blocks were stamped with the Assembly date and suffix code before the heads were installed... small blacks after...
923  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Striping on the Cowl Vent on: July 16, 2008, 09:22:05 AM
The firewall had white paint pretty heavily misted down it as well... not quite as bad as the one in your book...

What's neat about this is that where the voids are on the lip where the seal pushes on... there are globs of paint which appear to have been deposited by what ever fixture was holding the panel... in the little globs you can see a bunch of differnet colors layered up... Ralley Green, red, silver... etc. 
924  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Striping on the Cowl Vent on: July 16, 2008, 02:24:57 AM
Here are some photos of a 69 cowl vent with original paint on it... has anyone else seen the stripe oversprayed so out of the norm?



Here are a few more... you can see the lack of coverage in the 2 places where it must have hung in the car...





925  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Data base for Camaro Race Car? on: July 15, 2008, 11:22:42 PM
Is it a T/A or a SCCA sedan class car? Brass tag on the cage?
926  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Clarifications on the Assembly process... on: July 15, 2008, 05:19:23 PM
This is for a 69 Camaro...

1.When was the suede textured dash sprayed after the semi-gloss on the lower dash?
2.Was the suede texture used on the rear corners and edge around package tray?


3.The Assembly process says that the Vins were assigned and installed at the Chevrolet side of operations... so this means that the Vin plate would not be suede textured / or on a non-black colored interior car the vin tag would be black... is this correct?

4.The Stripes on the cowl grille were painted at Fisher, then the hood and valence stripes were done at Chevrolet... correct? This is how I understood the report.

 
927  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Lacquer or BC on: July 15, 2008, 11:45:05 AM
My dad painted his 1940 Ford Woodie wagon with Laquer 20 years ago and there is nothing wrong with the paint at all. It has been touched up because it was bumped and scratched (he drives it often) but as far as quality issues... there have been none.

Now that being said and because the car is metallic I am going to go with BC and single stage stripes. That is a great compromise I had not even considered. A BC job which has been wet sanded to perfection and buffed looks as close to a rubbed out lacquer job as you can get without it actually being lacquer.
928  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 69 owners with "Pebble-grained" steering wheels (not shrouds) please check in on: July 15, 2008, 01:01:52 AM
10D (Early)
Norwood
Z28
711
Grab Bar
Pebble Grain
929  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Another trim tag question on: July 14, 2008, 02:20:39 PM
If you use some enamel reducer... NOT LACQUER THINNER... and put it on a rag and go SLOW you hould be able to find more P's T's and B's on both sides... plus you probably find something like Black scrawled across the firewall... this is what we found on the Black 04C X33.




On the TT side there is an Orange "B" visible and under the TT behind the wiring there is a "T".




930  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Another trim tag question on: July 14, 2008, 12:49:11 PM
Nice a Tripple black no trim Z... Cool
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