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16  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: This Pic got me thinking.. on: December 03, 2014, 03:38:50 PM
Flat hoods had nothing to do with the overspray in the wiper cowl.

1969 Z28 Norwood 10D Early Parked in 1973.









17  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Issue with argent silver wheel paint on: December 03, 2014, 03:25:13 PM
Not something I wold be willing risk on the body however it will probably be ok on the wheels, if you were planning on clearing them with semi-gloss there won't be any longevity issues, if not it is your call however my self I wouldn't lose a a minute thinking about it. 
18  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Issue with argent silver wheel paint on: December 03, 2014, 01:23:04 PM
According to my Nason Rep the paint does not have as much pigment as Chroma series however that looks like no pigment.
The thinning ratios of Nason are lower 2/3 paint to 1/3 vs 50/50 for Chroma one which would also lead one to the same conclusion.
Chroma Spies Hecker and Nason are Axalta Coatings formerly Nason and Chroma (and maybe Spies too) were part of Dupont Automotive finishes.
Anyway here is Chroma
19  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 1968 SS hood ornaments on: December 03, 2014, 10:25:31 AM
The reproduction Hood stack frames are very nice however the components when inspected with a close eye are off.

In order to make the repros look correct they need to have the areas around the stacks painted silver,
The backers in the originals are Black anodized the repros are black vinyl over aluminum or stainless.
Black anodizing isn't really black it is more of a Deep Purple color.
The wire in the original screens is .040 Aluminum  the Repros use .035 Stainless.















20  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: VE3 bumper on: November 26, 2014, 12:31:00 PM
I see now... I thought the photo was of the KL KR bracket attachment and it was of the inner VE3 bracket to Frame Extension bracket.
21  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 68z info 124378n408140 on: November 25, 2014, 09:36:55 AM
last week of march first week of april
22  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: VE3 bumper on: November 24, 2014, 10:48:59 PM
It appears the outers are hard mounted to the bumper. If so that is not the correct attachment set up for the outer (KR KL) brackets to bumper.
It utilizes 2 bushings along with a metal cup and recessed screw.
23  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Chambered exhaust hanger on: November 17, 2014, 10:15:20 AM
There is a difference between the optional system vs the earlier system rear drivers hanger (at least in the assembly manual) 
The rear drivers hanger on the early system was different, the later system has the same part number as the N10.
The overaxle hangers are different for Chambered vs N10 throughout the entire run as the N10 hangers are much longer, the chambered utilizes only one bolt with a retainer and the N10 uses a 2 bolt attachment.
The rear crossover chambered pipes had 2 welded straps on them and are bolted together on the early system, the bolt nut and washer were deleted in mid January. (original exhausts would need to be studied to determine if and when the change fell upon the assembly line.)

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$2000 and you still have to PAY MORE to get a tiny piece of rubber added to make the hangar right?!?!?!  
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oh no it wasn't even offered as an option...


When I questioned Eric Gardner about the difference he knew it and merely stated it would cost an extra $50 for them to make them correct. I stammered in disbelief as I couldn't even fathom eliminating a part to save $50 ESPECIALLY given the articles I had read regarding Gardner's adherence to correctness.

It was at this point I basically gave up on anything reproduction being correct regardless of the price.


What I disliked the most is that I offered to send him my originals so he could copy them or take it apart to use my white strap, I asked if he needed anything in order to ensure everything was correct as I really wanted the white sidewall strap replaced with like. He stated they originally made them with white and or black and they received complaints about the white strapped hangers so they stopped however he thought there were some white straps still around and he would try to put it in my hanger.
He told me that they knew how the originals were made and theirs were exact copies, he never mentioned the wedged rubber omission.

Whether intentional or not the pictures on their website were not of a high enough resolution to see that the wedge is missing.
24  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Chambered exhaust hanger on: November 13, 2014, 08:31:59 PM
Unless they have changed them in the last few years, Gardners rear hangers are not correct (The arched rubber spacer is not in the hanger).  Eric did tell me that it would cost an extra $50 to make the hanger correct... I stated that equated to a few percent of the system cost and since I was paying near 2k $50 wasn't going to push me not to buy... I wished they consulted the hobby before the decision was made to scrimp on the hanger.









Over the axle hanger retainers reproduction and original.



25  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: '68 lower control arm won't fit in subframe on: November 12, 2014, 11:14:53 PM
If you use a spreader bar in between the inside of the two bushing holes it makes the pressing go much easier, same goes for the distance where the bushing actually passes in the A arm rail. If you space this with a precise spacer it keeps the deflection down, the deflection in the steel of the A arm rail is what is causing your binding and not allowing the bushing to press in without so much work.

What happens is the outside support wall flexes toward the opposing wall and even when you think it is home it isn't squarely home, so when the tension is released the wall flexes back and the busing is proud of it's proper placement. Keeping all the walls square to one another is the key to pressing bushings with as few problems possible.  

You don't need grease put a little palmolive liquid soap on them if you need a lubricant to allow them to slide into the pockets. 
26  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Speedo gear reduction on: October 23, 2014, 01:53:32 PM
It depended on the trans and rear ratio along with tire size whether or not it got the reducer. The M20 4.10 69 Z with low miles I restored did not have a reducer. 
27  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 X66 SS Headlight Bezels? on: October 23, 2014, 08:19:52 AM
http://www.camaros.org/exterior.shtml#1969Grille  It should be a black grill with black bezels for a 69 SS. Since it is an X66 (no style trim), they would NOT have the chrome ring on the bezels.
ALL 69 SS's have bright headlamp trimmed bezels.
http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#XnnCodes
This report states that the X55 and X66 carry the same features in regards to headlamp bezels...
My P&A has a note for the bezels (painted)
Does anyone have a part number for black bezels or were they all manufactured in Grey and paint as required?
28  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: October 22, 2014, 07:52:06 PM
They snap right off, although
I have never removed them in cleaning the belts.
I use plastic lens polish on the covers to polish them.
29  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / 1969 X66 SS Headlight Bezels? on: October 22, 2014, 06:30:21 PM
Car is Cortez Silver.
The grille had the original Cortez Silver on the surround.
The ones I removed, (believed to be the originals) are Argent without trim.
I have looked at more photos than I care to think about plus through Jerry's book and as best I can tell no one I trust has a published answer to the question... it's not in the Grille Report or in Jerry's book and the photos at best are inconclusive. 
I see some which have a argent bezel and some with a black bezel and chrome trim.

I never thought this would be an issue... however which ones would be on a X66?

30  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Touch up paint on: October 20, 2014, 10:36:27 AM
Is the paint original?
If not then most likely it will not match a "factory pack" touch up kit.
I had factory pack lacquer in Warbonnet Yellow for a 71 vette which matched dead on... the mixed lucite didn't match, going over to enamel it wan't even close.
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