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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Standard Steel Wheel Color on: October 04, 2014, 01:05:01 PM
Just for the record, an original wheel from my 68 dated k1 7 11 30 xg showing the pooling black paint from the dipping/flood spray, inside the back and on the outside directly under. No gray.



2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: repainting '68 black N30 steering wheel shroud on: October 02, 2014, 12:12:27 AM
Thanks, I was thinking it was more flat than the dash.

Yeah sorry, the gloss terms are easily mixed up. That's what I was meaning but got my sheen order wrong.
This article gives the correct order [I think] http://www.san-antonio-painting.com/paint-sheens.php

Masking is one way, but the tight radius's might be tricky.
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: repainting '68 black N30 steering wheel shroud on: October 01, 2014, 12:51:39 PM
I have N30 in a 68 as well. I doubt that they're chromed. It looks like plain zinc die cast all over including the highlights.
It does look like a semi gloss or flat black as compared to the dash which is more of a satin black.

Even the original paint did not adhere all that well. Maybe there's an etch primer for zinc or some other chemical surface treatment that will give better adhesion for the topcoat.
How these were sprayed originally, I'm not sure. Perhaps the whole face of the shroud was painted, then when dry the paint was lightly sanded from the highlights 
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Standard Steel Wheel Color on: September 26, 2014, 11:23:11 PM
Yes, the one on the right is definitely a respray as there's no hubcap or trim ring marks and it looks a tad too glossy.
I think whoever took the picture was demonstrating how their original 'argent with green tinge' rims looked as compared to one they had just resprayed.
The respray is also a fair bit darker/blacker and in fact does have a very subtle yellow cast as well. Photoshop does show the blue content as being consistently a few points lower than red and green.

It's debatable as to whether a neutral gray/silver can ever 'age' to a yellow cast, even that area under the hubcap has the same yellow cast.

My question was a bit sloppy, I should have asked 'is the rim on the left a typical example of what others refer to as 'argent with green tinge/hue'
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Standard Steel Wheel Color on: September 26, 2014, 12:36:40 PM
After much trolling of the net, I finally found this image.
The rim on the left has a slight yellow cast to it which is verified in photoshop with red and green [yellow] measuring near identical densities and blue a consistent 10 points lower [ 0 - 255 rgb scale ]
The rim on the right has near identical red, green and blue densities = gray.

Are these rims fair examples of the different hues?


6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Standard Steel Wheel Color on: September 24, 2014, 12:43:21 PM
There's a thread here at ncrs that has links to pics of wheels with green hue [first post] - original and respray.
http://www.ncrs.org/forums/showthread.php?62090-My-Formula-for-Greenish-Silver-Wheel-Paint

Would be good if someone with ncrs membership could get permission to re-post those pics here, I would really appreciate being able to see them.
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Standard Steel Wheel Color on: September 19, 2014, 11:35:23 AM
Ah-ha, so it is a baked enamel and I guess the Argent on the rally rims is the same?
I'm cleaning up some rims and finding the paint very tough to shift chemically, paint stripper doesn't do anything!

Was the Argent a satin/semi-gloss finish?
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct engine paint suggestions please! on: May 26, 2014, 10:27:42 AM
+1
The photo's and info in this thread are pure gold!! Thanks JohnZ and everyone else for contributing  Smiley
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Help me with correct resto colors on a Qjet 7029202 on: February 08, 2014, 09:49:54 AM

Many of the small wire links (choke rod, pump arm rod, etc.) were originally clear, not yellow chromate. The idle adjuster screw is usually clear as are most of the external misc. springs. Same for the idle mixture screws & springs.


Of the q-jets I have, all 4 connecting rods [choke, pull-off, pump, sec. throttle] are yellow chromated, as is the ilde speed adjustment screw, but not it's spring.
The idle mixture screws and springs are not chromated either.
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Help me with correct resto colors on a Qjet 7029202 on: January 30, 2014, 04:32:58 AM
Yep, that's pretty much exactly how I've always seen them as well.
Yes, your right about the air valve and choke screws - with what appears to be star washers under the heads??
The choke flap and fast idle shaft & housing were also Teflon coated. The sec. air valve shaft appears to be the only one left silver.
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Help me with correct resto colors on a Qjet 7029202 on: January 29, 2014, 09:00:00 PM
Hi Kurt, thanks for chiming in here. Do you recall if Rochester applied the green ptfe coating to the shafts in-house [very high cure temps required]
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Help me with correct resto colors on a Qjet 7029202 on: January 29, 2014, 10:45:30 AM
Hi Jeff, this is a very old thread but I have a q or 2 regarding the pics of your carb.
All my forensic analysis of the cover over the hot idle compensator on a number of Rochester's, tells me that they were only zinc/cad plated, not yellow chromated?
Same goes for the secondary air valves and choke flap, I've never been able to find any evidence of yellow chromate on them either.

I think for certain that Jerry has one item not right on that carb, the screws that secure the air valves and throttle plate should be black?
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Antenna - Rear Quarter on: November 16, 2013, 08:37:37 AM
I can only imagine that they wanted the aerial for am/fm to be front fender mounted, in order to keep the aerial lead as short as possible for least signal loss at fm frequencies.
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: BR or B-R on ignition coil can? on: November 04, 2013, 07:22:13 AM
I've chased this same question as well. As best as I can tell, early 68 models were br and then changed to b-r at some time during 68 calendar and certainly by the time 69's were rolling off the assembly line.
Would be good to try and narrow this one down.

b-r's are easy to find, br's are a pig! I only recently snared one off fleabay after years of hunting!!
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: Reproduction AM/FM quality? on: October 26, 2013, 07:10:21 AM
... and have to say that the pointer drive is anything but quiet stepper motor precision, sounds more like a sewing machine!


Jeeziminy!

Is that normal for these radios? Did you contact the seller?

I've been considering one of these for a long time, but the uber high pricing has kept me at bay. Seems that for that price, it would support bluetooth streaming or have a usb port hidden somewhere in the back or via a extender wire.



Sorry for my long absence here. Yes, I contacted the seller and he was happy to give a full refund.
The concept is good and the finish is great, but the implementation both mechanically and electrically needs more refiinement.
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