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General Discussion / Re: 1969 Z28 power brakes
« on: August 23, 2019, 02:26:19 AM »
Agree;  it was strictly a matter of preference.

Just because a car has disc brakes, it does not really NEED power assist.  Case in point:  my 1970 LT-1 Corvette has four wheel manual brakes.  Came that way from the factory.  No PB and no power steering.

1969 - Orphans / Re: 19N677856 M20 Case on eBay
« on: August 01, 2019, 02:55:00 AM »
It appears the last two digits of the VIN, have been stamped over the P9 part of assembly stamp.

                                                      - Warren

I get it now.

1969 - Orphans / Re: 19N677856 M20 Case on eBay
« on: July 31, 2019, 03:21:54 AM »
If it is a May 8 trans (which is really possible... lots of May parts on Aug cars) shouldn't it be P9E08A  ???

1969 - Orphans / Re: 19N677856 M20 Case on eBay
« on: July 31, 2019, 03:18:48 AM »
EO8A   ??

I know transmissions are stamped for model year.  But, how would they have known in May of 1969 that this was going into an August 69 car that would meet the 1970 model year standards?

I know gas tanks were dated for the 1970 model year starting in August 1969.   Have not seen any transmissions stamped this way.

General Discussion / Re: partial vin stampings
« on: July 19, 2019, 08:41:13 PM »
Thanks William:

"Most of the time, the same VIN gang-stamp was used for both the engine and transmission VIN stamps, but some 1969 vehicles have the engine and tranmission VIN stamps applied with different gang-stamps. It is unknown why this occurred."

Seems like an incredible waste of time to load up TWO gang stamps for one engine/trans set up; especially considering that they had to change out a number or two for the very next engine/trans combo.

General Discussion / partial vin stampings
« on: July 19, 2019, 02:40:54 AM »
I know Ihave read this somewhere.  Just wanting to clarify the procedure.

Obviously, the engine assembly code was stamped at Flint or Tonowanda.

The partial vin was stamped at LA or Norwood AFTER the engine and trans were assigned to a particular car.

Were the two units (engine and trans) then stamped twice with the same gang stamper set up?

If so, wouldn't the fonts on the partials always be exactly the same?  I realize there was some play in the gang stamper (I have seen more than one with one digit a little high or low) but at least the fonts of the "N" would always be the same.  Same for the "9" for 1969 model years, and so on all the way through the partial.

Am I off base?

Had no idea.  I do not believe my car had the sticker.   My brother got it in 75, and I traded him for it in 76.  There was no evidence of any gum adhesive residue.

No, I can't.

Hey Lynn, that sticker started in September 1 of 69, not august. You can see 08E cars that had the sticker, (to be delivered in September) but none prior.
That's a conflicted statement. 08E would be August built, not September.

Look at page 200 of Jerry's 1969 book.  John Berry's old car, vin 671208 (mine is 671122).  There is a pic of the sticker, and a pic of his vin.  John's car got the sticker, and it is an 08A car.  My car, just 86 cars earlier, did not get the sticker.  I have no other pics, but have talked to at least two others with 08A cars who told me their cars got the vin sticker.   The two ribs on the door started showing up in June, I believe.  I have never heard of a car prior to 08A getting the sticker.

Don't know why, but about 20 years ago, I was really interested to find more info on when those started.   Seems trivial now.  I even tracked down John Berry back then, and discussed this with him.   I believe he was in Florida at the time.

The argument over whether a late 69 Camaro (and Corvette for that matter... as the 69 Corvette extended production even further than the Camaro) is mainly a question of semantics.

All the VIN's indicate 1969 model year.   They DID have to comply with 1970 Federal standards which is why only the Camaros built after Aug. 1 recieved the blue mylar vin decal in the door, as well as the stamped vin on top of the dash.  Pre August cars do not have the decal in the door.

Someone enlighten me if I am wrong, but I believe that mylar decal was the ONLY Federal standard that applied to 70 models that did not apply to 69 models. 

Did one decal on the door make it a 70 model?   Does it really matter?

General Discussion / Re: 68 Z28 on BaT
« on: March 03, 2019, 07:13:30 PM »
Not sure if any Z/28's got them, but there are a couple of very late 68 Camaros with 350 engines that got 1969 casting (186) heads.
The extra holes would not interfere with anything on the 68.

General Discussion / Re: Radiator shroud clip
« on: May 24, 2018, 11:39:18 PM »
"He thought I had mixed up priorities"
Obviously not a car guy.  Probably drives a Prius.

1969 - Orphans / Re: 9N686793 Muncie case on eBay
« on: January 07, 2018, 04:29:47 PM »
Ad says Nov. 69.  P9K is July, 69.

Agree with Kurt (and only saying because you asked for opinions).

If it were the ORIGINAL paint there might be a good argument for keeping it as is.   Even then, given the amount of surfacr rust, a good paint job might be in order.   Being that it is a repaint, the decision toward a good paint job is even easier.  It will preserve it much better.  JMHO, but it is moving fast beyond "patina".

General Discussion / Re: Here we go again! 68 Z/28 buyer beware
« on: August 31, 2017, 01:01:36 AM »
WTH happened to that trim tag, other than having been removed from the car.  I know 68 tags don't give much info, and rarely get faked, but that edges have been cut off that one with shears (at least that is what it looks like) and it has definitely been off the firewall.   Aftermarket rivet (the one you can see) and not installed correctly.

General Discussion / Re: Slick size?
« on: August 19, 2017, 02:50:08 AM »
Yes, if you are using the "newer" sizing, 255 60 15 is probably it for a 69.  I had a KILLER pair of 275 60 15 Hoosiers, and they were so close to rubbing with the car sitting still, I knew they would rub as soon as I started driving it.  Broke my heart to sell them.
I have 255 60 15 on the back right now, and there are no rubbing issues.   Your stock rally wheel should work fine with that size.  255 means it is just over 10 inches wide at teh section width, not tread width.   So a 9 inch wide slick has about a 10 inch section width.   As for heighth, the 255 60 15 is 27 inches tall.  If you can find a slick in the size stated above, 28 x 9, you should still be ok.  27 x 9 would also work.

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