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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: HELP with suspension upgrade? on: March 26, 2006, 10:38:34 PM
I have KYB's.  I cant really compare them to anything since the shocks they replaced were Gabriel Hijackers (20 years old?) and some no-name shocks in the front.  I find the ride w/ the KYB's somewhat stiff however.  Personally, I'd prefer a little more 'give'. 
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Aftermarket front buckets on: February 05, 2006, 12:39:33 AM
3rd and 4th gen Camaro seats will fit the first gen, just use your existing 1st gen seat brackets and bolt them to the new seats.  Please note: I've read this several times on other sites but haven't actually tried it myself.  I also saw where some guy cut the tabs off the fourth gen seats brackets and then rewelded them on so they lined up with the holes in the floor of the first gen. 
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Reproduction 1969 Camaro Coupe Shells on: February 05, 2006, 12:33:47 AM
I read in a magazine that the coupes would be $2k more than the conv, so somewhere around $12,500. 
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New Guy looking at a '67, needing help reaching general value on: February 05, 2006, 12:17:13 AM
Please dont take this the wrong way, but you need to get someone who knows about cars to personally go with you and check this vehicle out.  Pin-hole rust means rust-through.  Rust-through generally means 'requires complete replacement'.  It also usually means there is more rust but you just cant see it.  Camaro's are very prone to rust.  I started making a list of most likely places you'll find rust, but the list was getting too long to include in this post.  Suffice to say, if you can see pin hole rust on the body, trunk and underbody, and the vehicle was recently painted, there is likely to be a ton of bondo hiding more serious problems. 

The aftermarket makes loads of parts for these cars now, but if you dont know how to repair it yourself (weld for example) you'll be paying someone else to do the work for you and it gets expensive fast. 

Things like windows not going up and down properly are items that are easily fixed.  As are leaking gaskets and rusty engine pieces. But items like replacing floors, trunks, and window channels are not easily fixed by the amateur.  And after all that, you'll likely need to repaint the car.  That's not cheap or easy either.

My advise to you is two-fold.  One, go to your local garage and hire someone to scope out this vehicle for you.  Offer to pay him for his time and expertise.  (It beats buying an $18k lemon).  Two, spend more time researching first gen Camaro's.  Learn more about them.  Go to CarTraderonline and see what else is available.  Check out other sites like and, both sites have a vehicle for sale section and knowledgeable people.  Take your time, dont rush into this.  They made a half a million first gen Camaros.  It'll be ok if this one gets away. 

Bottom line, if this was an original v6 car, it was probably nothing special.  IMO it would have to be pretty freakin' sweet to be worth $18k.

If you want, send me an email,, and I'll send you a list of specific things to look for and look at. 
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: 700R4 conversion in a '68 on: February 04, 2006, 11:45:26 PM
The 200-4r's were offered in lots of GM mid-sized cars, while the 700r4 was usually found in the 3rd gen Camaros and Firebirds. A 200-4r can be rebuilt to handle some serious horsepower.  There are plenty of them now available that will handle 450 hp and up.  I like the 200-4r swap over the 700r4 swap because the driveshaft doesn't have to be shortened and because you can adapt the t-400 crossmember.  Parts you'll need to put a 200-4r in a first gen Camaro/Firebird:  200-4r trans, 200-4r locking torque converter + 3 metric bolts, 200-4r dipstick and tube, speedo gears, floor shifter conversion kit and lens (so you can grab all four gears), gear lever (mounts on trans), trans bracket (mounts on trans), carb bracket, lock-up kit, and modified crossmember.  I have been informed that the t-400 crossmember does not exactly work without modification because the t-400's were used in big block cars, and big block cars used a different motor mount on the left (to clear the steering column), and that using an unmodified t-400 crossmember will 'tweak' the whole setup.  The solution is to cut the tongue off the t-400 crossmember and then remount it in the proper place, or buy an aftermarket crossmember made for this conversion.  I have read some poor reviews on some of these aftermarket crossmembers from people who have purchased them.  Comments like, 'poor fit' and 'poor paint'.  Plus, they're not inexpensive.  While not required, you might need to change your rear end gearing.  The 200-4r has a .67 overdrive.  So if you're running 3.08 gears, that'll drop you to 2.20:1 or so.  Which might be too low for your engine to make usable power.  .....  You might check out and for more information on this exact topic. 
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: Possible Axle swap on: February 04, 2006, 11:20:35 PM
Get that 12 bolt posi.  They're selling for $1500++  You could always sell it and get something else, like an 8.5 from a nova/ventura that's already rebuilt and has the gears you really want.  Look on ebay for prices and availability.  IMO 3.73's or 3.55's would work really well with an overdrive.   
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