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General Discussion / Re: 69 396 car.

« on: June 19, 2017, 12:09:09 AM »

It's funny that you guys pick out the color. I was thinking that too. After two white cars, I don't want another one.

Also, as stated, no mention of drivetrain numbers. Which leads me to believe that it's not NOM. Which is odd for a vehicle with only 62k miles on it. Which, unfortunately, makes me question everything else about the car.

So, if it's not NOM, then you're only buying a trim tag attached to a nice restoration and a collection of parts. The NOM collectors will pass. The shade tree mechanics wont spend the money. Leaving the less-informed to buy it. It is a nice resto though, and the trim tag looks legit, so I'm thinking $40-50k, with a sell price of $45k. It's future value is tough. If it sits in a glass bubble, it should go up in value. If it's driven, I'm thinking it's value will remain basically the same. I'm curious as to what others think.

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Originality / Re: 67 BB frame mounts - question

« on: May 28, 2017, 02:29:30 PM »

It doesn't look like your motor mounts would have moved the engine forward for additional firewall clearance, like the link posted above mentions. My first thought was to swap sides, but you mentioned that they wont swap due to a flange on the trailing edge. So, I would conclude that they are wrong for your car and replace them. Figure out what they are later on.

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Garage Talk / Re: Flux Capacitor

« on: May 28, 2017, 01:44:18 PM »

Hilarious!

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Restoration / Re: Source for 302 cylinder heads

« on: April 17, 2017, 12:29:05 PM »

Cracked heads can be repaired. RE ceramic coating inside the heads. A jillion GM motors didn't need it, I doubt there's any real benefit to you. While the shop is doing the machine work, you might as well have them install hardened seats.

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Maintenance / Re: 68 Camero leaf spring

« on: April 17, 2017, 12:20:05 PM »

You could add shock extenders. I think they are made by Moroso. A lot of people dont like them, but I had them in a car that I drove for years with no issues or problems.

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Garage Talk / Re: This is the story of my first car.

« on: March 14, 2017, 03:17:42 AM »

Nice story Darrell. Well written. I feel like I was there too. Thanks for sharing.

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General Discussion / Re: 1967 NICKEY or NOT ?

« on: March 12, 2017, 04:22:16 PM »

I cant see how that is a Nickey Camaro. The Revell model has a better claim to Nickey heritage than the car for sale does. And obviously, cutting a ads out of magazines and adding door stickers do not provide provenance.

That car reminds me of so many 'built' cars back in the day. 12 bolts, big blocks, 302's, and associated speed parts were easily available and relatively inexpensive. Owners that wanted to, could buy the performance parts and upgrade their ride. The velvet interior suggests this car was revamped in the early 80's. The RS option looks original, but there's been so many changes to this car, and they look to have been so long ago, that it's tough to tell.

The body and undercarriage looks fairly straight and clean. The seller should have provided more pictures of the undercarriage and less pictures of old advertisements.

Without any real proof to the contrary, I would assume that car started as a plain jane, had everything added onto it, and price it accordingly.

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Mild Modifications / Re: HELP with suspension upgrade?

« on: March 27, 2006, 03:38:34 AM »

I have KYB's.  I cant really compare them to anything since the shocks they replaced were Gabriel Hijackers (20 years old?) and some no-name shocks in the front.  I find the ride w/ the KYB's somewhat stiff however.  Personally, I'd prefer a little more 'give'. 

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General Discussion / Re: Aftermarket front buckets

« on: February 05, 2006, 05:39:33 AM »

3rd and 4th gen Camaro seats will fit the first gen, just use your existing 1st gen seat brackets and bolt them to the new seats.  Please note: I've read this several times on other sites but haven't actually tried it myself.  I also saw where some guy cut the tabs off the fourth gen seats brackets and then rewelded them on so they lined up with the holes in the floor of the first gen. 

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General Discussion / Re: Reproduction 1969 Camaro Coupe Shells

« on: February 05, 2006, 05:33:47 AM »

I read in a magazine that the coupes would be $2k more than the conv, so somewhere around $12,500. 

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General Discussion / Re: New Guy looking at a '67, needing help reaching general value

« on: February 05, 2006, 05:17:13 AM »

Please dont take this the wrong way, but you need to get someone who knows about cars to personally go with you and check this vehicle out.  Pin-hole rust means rust-through.  Rust-through generally means 'requires complete replacement'.  It also usually means there is more rust but you just cant see it.  Camaro's are very prone to rust.  I started making a list of most likely places you'll find rust, but the list was getting too long to include in this post.  Suffice to say, if you can see pin hole rust on the body, trunk and underbody, and the vehicle was recently painted, there is likely to be a ton of bondo hiding more serious problems. 

The aftermarket makes loads of parts for these cars now, but if you dont know how to repair it yourself (weld for example) you'll be paying someone else to do the work for you and it gets expensive fast. 

Things like windows not going up and down properly are items that are easily fixed.  As are leaking gaskets and rusty engine pieces. But items like replacing floors, trunks, and window channels are not easily fixed by the amateur.  And after all that, you'll likely need to repaint the car.  That's not cheap or easy either.

My advise to you is two-fold.  One, go to your local garage and hire someone to scope out this vehicle for you.  Offer to pay him for his time and expertise.  (It beats buying an $18k lemon).  Two, spend more time researching first gen Camaro's.  Learn more about them.  Go to CarTraderonline and see what else is available.  Check out other sites like camaros.net and camaross.com, both sites have a vehicle for sale section and knowledgeable people.  Take your time, dont rush into this.  They made a half a million first gen Camaros.  It'll be ok if this one gets away. 

Bottom line, if this was an original v6 car, it was probably nothing special.  IMO it would have to be pretty freakin' sweet to be worth $18k.

If you want, send me an email, wah69ss@yahoo.com, and I'll send you a list of specific things to look for and look at. 

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Mild Modifications / Re: 700R4 conversion in a '68

« on: February 05, 2006, 04:45:26 AM »

The 200-4r's were offered in lots of GM mid-sized cars, while the 700r4 was usually found in the 3rd gen Camaros and Firebirds. A 200-4r can be rebuilt to handle some serious horsepower.  There are plenty of them now available that will handle 450 hp and up.  I like the 200-4r swap over the 700r4 swap because the driveshaft doesn't have to be shortened and because you can adapt the t-400 crossmember.  Parts you'll need to put a 200-4r in a first gen Camaro/Firebird:  200-4r trans, 200-4r locking torque converter + 3 metric bolts, 200-4r dipstick and tube, speedo gears, floor shifter conversion kit and lens (so you can grab all four gears), gear lever (mounts on trans), trans bracket (mounts on trans), carb bracket, lock-up kit, and modified crossmember.  I have been informed that the t-400 crossmember does not exactly work without modification because the t-400's were used in big block cars, and big block cars used a different motor mount on the left (to clear the steering column), and that using an unmodified t-400 crossmember will 'tweak' the whole setup.  The solution is to cut the tongue off the t-400 crossmember and then remount it in the proper place, or buy an aftermarket crossmember made for this conversion.  I have read some poor reviews on some of these aftermarket crossmembers from people who have purchased them.  Comments like, 'poor fit' and 'poor paint'.  Plus, they're not inexpensive.  While not required, you might need to change your rear end gearing.  The 200-4r has a .67 overdrive.  So if you're running 3.08 gears, that'll drop you to 2.20:1 or so.  Which might be too low for your engine to make usable power.  .....  You might check out http://www.camaros.net/forums/ and http://web.camaross.com/forums/ for more information on this exact topic. 

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Mild Modifications / Re: Possible Axle swap

« on: February 05, 2006, 04:20:35 AM »

Get that 12 bolt posi.  They're selling for $1500++  You could always sell it and get something else, like an 8.5 from a nova/ventura that's already rebuilt and has the gears you really want.  Look on ebay for prices and availability.  IMO 3.73's or 3.55's would work really well with an overdrive.