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76  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 18, 2013, 08:09:37 PM
kind of neat that the color on these posts is EO.   Grin Grin
77  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: It's Baack-----2014 Z28 on: April 18, 2013, 08:06:07 PM
this car could make me forgo a C-7 corvette. have to make some calls and see what the deal is on these new Z/28
78  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 18, 2013, 07:50:18 PM
Motorman, if your dealer and you sat down and opened the color chip book to pick a color, then I assume it was one from 1969. If that is the case then this car was never Evening Orchid, but probably without a doubt it was painted Olds Toronado "Flamingo Silver" code #81. This is similar, but a lot lighter shade of lavender just was what appears to be seen in the picture above of the roofrail. This color was a one year only item used by Buick (Sunset Silver) and Olds for 1969. Not many cars were painted this color either. I can see how this color could be confused to Evening Orchid, but side by side comparisons they are night and day..... The picture of the car from back in the day appears to be this 1969 Buick/Olds color as it is nowhere near dark enough for Evening Orchid.............Just my two cents worth.....................RatPack......................... Are there any pictures of the sides of the cowl panel before restoration began where the original color would have been?
you order by the color code number not the color name just as you order any option by the code number not for example 4 speed trans.
79  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 17, 2013, 10:27:26 PM
Clem,
When you ordered it, how did you specify the color to the dealer?
Clem,
When you ordered it, how did you specify the color to the dealer?
the dealer and i just opened the GM color book and ordered the color. i also have had corvettes,pickups and full size chevys painted non standard colors. my anniversary gold 62 corvette took 14 days from when the order was placed till it showed up at the dealership. quickest new car order i ever got.  since the cars were painted by hand back then it seems the special color ones got a better paint job. i have been told that the paint in cans was put into the cars as they went down the assy line so when it go to the paint area they just opened the cans and put the paint into the guns and painted the cars. .
80  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 17, 2013, 08:48:57 AM
The man ordered the car. He should know what color he ordered. I have know idea why anyone would doubt him. Every picture I've seen has a lavender hue to it. I'm with ya Clem.
there is lot at stake here for people who charge a lot of $$$ to certify these cars. if i had not stepped up a rare 1 of 1 Z/28 would have been lost. also my credibility is at stake here also so i will defend myself with all my power
81  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 16, 2013, 02:25:46 PM
Motorman?  CLEM?  Is that you?   *S*   
If that area exposed in Jerry's photo is indicative of your entire car (originally), it's definitely the lavendor orchid color!~   and I definitely know that you know what you are talking about.   and I recall you talking about buying a Z28 for your wife at that time....  now that all the pieces are coming together.!

I hope you are doing well, since it's been a few years since I saw you at the Vetteheads tent in Carlisle *S*
Hey!  and that carburetor you rebuilt under the tent is still working great on my '72 (previously mine, then Ed's, and now mine again)....     
 *(although I really had my doubts it would ever work watching you rebuild it and tossing parts that you said..   'Ah we don't need that'..    not to mention the alcohol taht was put away under that tent.. and not even mentioning the strawberrys..  Smiley


yep it is ME !!!
82  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 16, 2013, 12:19:21 PM
Not calling anyone a liar.  Just stating facts from my inspection on the car and a nice close up photo to back up my findings of silver paint under the roof rail trim.  Let the readers decide for themselves.  I have the invoice to the car too.  It does NOT state Evening orchid on it.   
you are posting that i have no idea what color MY car was and i would say that is calling me a liar when i say it wqs EO from the factory. looks like the new owner has more faith in my opinion than yours. i belive you do not want this one of a kind special paint camaro to take the place of your camaro as the one the camaro fans talk about.
83  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 16, 2013, 11:32:57 AM
Clem,
Discuss the topic, not the person! Personal attacks are not allowed here. 1st and only warning.
jerry is calling me a liar or senile as remembering what color my car was. that is what i would call a personal attack.  he never sawthe car till after it was repainted so he is only guessing.
84  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 16, 2013, 11:29:19 AM
Clem,
Discuss the topic, not the person! Personal attacks are not allowed here. 1st and only warning.
I did not screw anything up.  I inspected the car just like I do any other car.  The owner at that time also agreed with Bill and me during my evaluation.  Bill G. and I have been doing this for most of our lives.  I know the Evening Orchid color very well and remember the '65 Impalas from my neighborhood in this color.  It is one of my favorites.  Show me the original order form where is says code "P" or special order paint Evening Orchid and then we'll sit down and talk.  I have the photos in my data base from my inspection that show it as Argent silver or something very close to that.  Even the original photos show that.  End of story.  If you wanted to paint the car Evening orchid, you can do what ever you want to do.  It's your car.  Good luck with your project.       
why would i pick that color out of thin air if it was not the original color?
85  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 16, 2013, 08:55:45 AM
The car was an original silver car with stripe delete.  Bill Glowacki and I both inspected what was left of the original paint on the car.  We pulled off the door panels and checked the virgin paint with no UV damage.  It was not Evening Orchid,

Jerry  
give it up jerry you guys screwed up. unless someone took the VIN from my 69 Z and put it on a silver car you are just CYA. the cowl cutout fpr the cold air cleaner also proves it was my Z/28. ask your buddy john hinkley about my car as he knew about the eveing orchid Z/28 long before this showed up on the camaro web sites because of my posts about it on the vetteheads web site
86  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 16, 2013, 08:45:10 AM
To be honest, the older pics of the paint look silver. My gut said orchid at first until I read what everyone else had thought. Now I'm going back to what I originally thought, Orchid. That is going to be one unique looking car. Should draw some attention.
Yep, that's a pretty color... for a girl...   Smiley     
it was for a girl it was for my wife !!
87  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 16, 2013, 08:33:28 AM
i still can't believe that some posters believe the expert over the original owner who ordered the car. i know jerry is a god here but he is not god almighty.
88  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 15, 2013, 10:49:36 AM
so your saying this car was special order paint back in 69 and that specified color was evening orchid?
yes you got it. i had corvettes,pickups and full sized chevy painted special order colors starting back in the early 60s
89  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 15, 2013, 10:46:12 AM
Oh no, not again.....
yep the paid know all there is to know about Z/28s experts screwed up and still will not admit their mistake. i bet i was driving and autocrossing Z/28 before these experts came on the scene.
90  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 14, 2013, 03:55:33 PM
the wife wanted a purple car.  the color that was never available on a camaro according to the experts
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