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61  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 z/28 JL8 Camaro? on: May 20, 2014, 11:58:47 PM
As I expected, not one of the cars in the db.

It will be interesting to see who the selling dealer was....
62  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stripe delete on: May 20, 2014, 11:48:31 PM
The pics I have of the D88 stripe show it was a decal.
63  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1967 Camaro Pacesetter Sale on: May 20, 2014, 11:47:23 PM
Dan,
I sure sounds like it. I'd have to see the VIN to make sure it was after the first cars. IIRC, most 04C (but not some early cars) cars could have it.
64  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: T3 Replacements? on: May 19, 2014, 09:33:28 PM
I'd first check the voltage at the lights.
Relays won't change much if the voltage is already good there.
I'd put in halogens, btw.
65  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 z/28 JL8 Camaro? on: May 19, 2014, 09:31:38 PM
The database has a number of JL8's in it. Right about 25%.

I know of 2 other 9N643xxx JL8's.

What color is your car?
66  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1967 - Orphans / Re: 7L107342 V0825MS on: May 19, 2014, 09:24:33 PM
It was on ebay in 2007.
67  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy to forum with Old first Gen on: May 19, 2014, 09:11:06 PM
You won't be a sleeper with a chambered exhaust system. Those things are LOUD.
And low-flow too.
68  Site Comments / Discussion / Site Comments/Discussion / Re: When viewing who's online-what does this mean? on: May 18, 2014, 10:19:45 PM
It who the forum sees as viewing the forum.
No idea if that includes if you leave a tab in your browser open for days.
69  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 CAMARO Z-28 NUMBERS MATCHING DZ 302 4 SPEED HUGGER ORANGE RUST FREE on: May 18, 2014, 09:45:21 PM
I've seen different VIN fonts on the trans and the engine on later 69 NOR cars.
No idea why, but several have been on original, low-po cars, clearly not restamps.

Pad is original.
70  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 18, 2014, 09:31:54 PM
Yes, I should have clarified. Every zone had a zone office and that was the location. That should match with the NCRS doc.
E.g. Alabama is zone 31.
71  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 Z28, One Owner Carolina Blue Crossram JL8 on: May 18, 2014, 09:28:10 PM
On the blue car, it was all shill bidding and none the high bids were real. Makes it appear the car is valuable.

Anybody have a pic of the trim tag for the 68 Yenko?
72  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stripe delete on: May 18, 2014, 09:12:04 PM
The export cars used the ACC tag specifically because they didn't meet US specs and and 69 export and foreign-built cars also deleted the compliance text.
Norwood didn't use the extra space on the ACC tag.
All known special order 68 cars didn't get the ACC tag. Most of these are special paint. Yenkos are the only known Camaro COPOs in 68 so it's hard to know if there a difference between F&SO and COPO tagging.
At least 2 apparently normal order cars got the ACC tag and got an extra compliance tag.
Yenkos got the ACC tag and did not get the extra compliance tag. Why not?

The Yenkos were running MV code motor which probably was not certified and were going to be sold new with a 427.  So they were not in compliance with federal regs.
That leads to our conclusion of why the Yenko cars got the ACC tag.
73  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Dealer versus Customer Order on: May 18, 2014, 09:36:57 AM
Danny,
JohnZ worked in the plants back then. And I have docs from several dealers. No way is it 50%.
80-90% seems about what I see too.
74  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 17, 2014, 09:03:58 PM
Here is a listing of the zone office locations as of 1969, from GM documentation:
1   Flint MI
2   Tarrytown   NY
3   St. Louis MO
4   Minneapolis MN
5   Kansas City MO
6   Oakland CA
7   Dallas TX
8   Atlanta GA
9   Cincinnati OH
10   Denver CO
11   Chicago IL
12   Buffalo NY
13   Pittsburgh   PA
14   Baltimore MD
15   Philadelphia PA
16   Charlotte NC
17   Memphis TN
18   Des Moines IA
19   Portland, OR
20   Los Angeles CA
21   export   
22   Louisville KY
23   Oklahoma City OK
24   New Orleans LA
25   Indianapolis IN
26   Jacksonville FL
27   New York   NY
28   Cleveland   OH
29   Omaha NE
30   Houston TX
31   Birmingham AL
32   Boston MA
33   Fargo ND
34   San Diego   CA
35   Newark NJ
36   Salt Lake UT
37   Richmond   VA
39   El Paso TX
40   Charleston   WV
41   Wichita KS
42   Seattle WA
43   Portland, ME
44   Detroit MI
45   South Bend IN
46   Green Bay   WI
47   Peoria IL
48   Syracuse NY
49   Harrisburg   PA
61   Milwaukee   WI

These are from various Canadian sources - not a definitive as the above list, but I believe they are correct.
80   Oshawa   ON
81   Vancouver   BC
82   Calgary   Alberta
83   Regina   SK
84   Winnipeg   MB
85   London   ON
86   Montreal   Quebec
87   Moncton   NB
88   Ste. Foy   QC
95   Toronto   ON
96   Ottawa   ON
75  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 Z28, One Owner Carolina Blue Crossram JL8 on: May 16, 2014, 06:43:08 PM
Idiot. About 4x market value, IMO, and he didn't sell it.
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