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2761  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1968 - Orphans / Re: 8L115808 396 engine on e-bay on: January 04, 2008, 11:37:57 PM
But it's from a 68 big car, not a Camaro.
2762  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: 19N486481 Z/28 block on: January 04, 2008, 11:36:41 PM
9N586481 looks pretty good for that engine date.
2763  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Trying to verify 1968 SS L78 stripe delete on: January 04, 2008, 11:33:43 PM
A stripe delete would appear on the window sticker as special paint. It had stripes when it left the plant.
2764  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 396 L34 Casting Number on: January 04, 2008, 11:20:04 PM
The 440 block was used in 68. Some show up in early 69 cars.

An April car and engine would not have a 440 block, many months too late. Having the VIN on the pad is a bad sign too. I agree, I'd say the block is a restamp.
2765  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New Guy Question - Originality and Price on: January 03, 2008, 11:11:42 PM
Unless it has a VIN stamped auto trans (TH400), it's real hard to prove. I'd assume that's it's not a BB car originally and pay accordingly. Condition is everything....
2766  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New Guy Question - Originality and Price on: January 03, 2008, 03:20:14 PM
And you're sure it was a 396 car originally?
2767  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Yellow marking on smog pump on: January 03, 2008, 11:05:19 AM
Nobody has offered an understanding on the discrepancy in the 1969  Camaro AIM.
Cause the 69 AIM was based on the 68 AIM and not all drawings were redrawn completely. The 68 dash is still shown too.....
2768  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Yellow marking on smog pump on: January 02, 2008, 03:14:20 PM
although the date on the pump reads July 18,1968, and could be originally on a very late 1968 Camaro, my guess would be more likely the complete setup pictured (pulley is 458DA) was on a early 1969 model year.
Well if you disregard what Jerry, Steve, and I say, you could assume that.
I think that all 3 of us will still say that pump was not used in 69.

Additionally, the fact that there's extra markings that are not factory on it suggests the pump is not in its original configuration.
2769  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Looking for my original Z/28 engine on: January 02, 2008, 12:36:33 PM
John,
I haven't found the MVSS code for 68-69, but HI delivered cars often (always?) don't have heaters in them. Common source for the heater delete plates that show up on ebay.
And the HI window stickers don't have C48 on them, but they do have an export prep RPO.
2770  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Gear reduction unit on: January 01, 2008, 01:17:40 PM
And I think that with an 9 tooth drive gear, the car doesn't neet the adapter at all (like John's car).
2771  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Gear reduction unit on: December 31, 2007, 11:30:15 AM
Another isssue that comes into play is the drive gear on the main shaft.  There are two, 8 and 9 tooth.  In my 35+ years of rebuilding Muncies, I have seen both used for the same model year application.

Jerry
Yup, that's actually the same issue. Those are the two different part #'s the AIM shows.

Steve, I'll have to look into the 15" wheel question.
2772  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Do BB and SB radiators use the same mounting holes? on: December 31, 2007, 11:26:56 AM
If the radiator and block are clean (inside), the SB rad should do more than adequate job of cooling.
2773  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Gear reduction unit on: December 31, 2007, 01:41:07 AM
It depends on the trans version the car received. If I recall the details correctly, the 4.10 could use either of two M20's (shown in the AIM). One was for the deeper gears and one was for the normal gear range. One required the use of the adaptor, one didn't. Which trans was used depended on availability in the plant.

I've definitely seen original 4.10 M20 cars without the adaptor.
2774  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Yellow marking on smog pump on: December 31, 2007, 01:34:21 AM
http://www.camaros.org/emissions.shtml

No 69 Camaro pump had that relief valve installed.
2775  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Export Cars and smog equipment on: December 31, 2007, 01:31:22 AM
Canada wasn't generally considered export.

In 68, AIR was deleted for Canada, but not in 69.
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