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46  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: COST OF BUYING CARS WITH OR WITHOUT RUST on: December 05, 2014, 04:09:43 PM
First, do your research! Then, figure out how much you want to put into it!  Stick to it....
And for the unskilled the best rule is buy it already restored... Most cars (outside of a really good deal or a really rare car with an inflated price) cost more to restore than buy outright.  But that's not your question...
On the whole my rule of thumb is I don't want to have to do more than a 40% restoration overall.
The frame and the drivetrain are the "bones and heart" of a car.  If they look bad, walk away. Unless you just happen to have a drivetrain in your garage that you are dying to put into something, but that means a low ball offer.
And then, yes, start adding up the body and interior parts and subtract that from the buying price if it is over priced according to your research.
I've got a buddy who takes half the price of needed parts and adds that in for his time.  He clearly states his "deductions" describing the work needed.  Most of the time he does get the car for his price... and he buys several each year.  And he describes the cars he didn't get as "Well, I've been laughed at before...."
Unless you have access to a paint booth or want a rat rod, you need to know paint prices  I know that's not a part of the negotiating on a rusty car, but it is still an out of pocket issue.  If you spend more than 40% repairing and replacing rusted stuff, then you are likely to wind up "under water" on the car....
Of course, if I ever find a 61 Impala like I drove in high school, I'd probably pay three times what it is worth even if it is a pile of rust.  I'll hold it together with a metallic paint job!
47  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68/67 speedo/tach bezel chrome repair adhesive rings on: December 05, 2014, 08:10:12 AM
Practice lining them up a time or two before you take the backing off. I put them on top to bottom with a roller to avoid air bubbles and stretching. It takes steady hands...
48  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New to CRG from N Texas on: December 04, 2014, 08:56:05 PM
Welcome! How about a little more commentary/history on these pictures?
49  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: A sad goodbye on: December 04, 2014, 03:57:58 PM
  Bummer, but I hope you enjoy the new digs as much as the Camaro. Please stay active on CRG! The more input the better.
50  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68/67 speedo/tach bezel chrome repair adhesive rings on: December 01, 2014, 05:38:04 PM
I've used them. They look and fit fine.
51  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Charlotte New Car Show on: November 25, 2014, 08:24:00 AM
Lookin' good Phillip, what do they call this show?


Thanks.
Charlotte Auto Show
It is mostly a new car show put on by local dealers to stir up sales. Ford had the aluminum truck and Chevy their Trax, small SUV.
A few makes had classic cars with their new ones, including a beautiful 55 Cadillac convertible.
For the last few years there has been a "History of Cars" display. That's where we come in. Our club had cars from 1914 to the 70s. In years past there have been cars from Rick H's collection.
The show gives our club a large donation for bringing the old cars out, which goes to our scholarship foundation.
52  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Hose Clamps on: November 24, 2014, 05:52:56 PM
Re pops I bought were junk. They were a kit.

X3 I wound up throwing away half the ones that came in the kit for my 68.  You could not make them fit....
53  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Charlotte New Car Show on: November 24, 2014, 05:48:02 PM
Wish I would had gone...
Well, at the last minute I even had two extra tickets....  Roll Eyes
They didn't advertise this year like they have in the past, but there was a good crowd on Saturday.
54  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Which old car would you choose? on: November 24, 2014, 05:41:54 PM
I like old pickup trucks...

X2
But what would be your plans for them?  Restore... show... drive?
Of what you have pictured, the pickups would most likely draw the most interest and value.
You might want to post on the appropriate AACA forums for more information on the actual vehicle(s).  There's a forum there for most makes.
Let us know what you do.  Grin
55  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Charlotte New Car Show on: November 22, 2014, 05:57:24 PM
Here's a picture of the 68 at the Charlotte New Car Show.  Our club displayed forty-some cars from 1914 to 1978 in a section called "The History of Cars".
That's a brand new restoration of a 442 parked next to me.  Beautiful car!
(Sorry about the glare in the picture.  Cars look great under the bright lights, but it makes for lousy pictures...)
56  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Shipping Data Report vs Trim Tag on: November 05, 2014, 07:35:21 AM
Gary,
That's not correct. Orders were placed sometimes months in advance.
The tag was made for the build, not for the order.
That being said, is Gary's conclusion that the VIN will get you closer to the build date than the tag (without other documentation) more valid? A combination of both?
57  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Who's going to SEMA ? on: November 03, 2014, 12:14:40 PM
Bring us back a list of some of the cool new products!
58  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Part numbers for 67 front and rear glass reveal clips on: October 29, 2014, 07:33:31 PM
Glad it worked out for you.
59  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: '68 L30 RS Conv. with 2 Broadcast Sheets and POP on: October 28, 2014, 05:16:27 PM
Kurt, or anybody.
  What is the best way to handle/clean a sheet that my brother found on top of his gas tank just this weekend (72 LA SS Nova)? it is very brittle and is covered with 40 yrs. of fine black soot. Im not going to a document restorer as it is not mine and he can care less about it. It seems even a weak vacuum with a brush would damage it further. It is currently between pages of the Sunday paper for safe keeping.
    Thank's for any advise,
    Victor
Hopefully, your Sunday newspaper is printed on acid free paper.
If nothing else, make copies and then put the original in a suitable-sized clear plastic slip.  You can find them at antique stores. Then, keep it in a slightly cool, dark place.
I've got two British propaganda booklets from WWI that were stored in a linen closet until the 1990s, when I got them and stored them as I said.  They look brand new....
I doubt that cleaning it would be profitable as you describe it.  Anything that would impact the black soot (mold?) would hurt the paper.
60  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Part numbers for 67 front and rear glass reveal clips on: October 22, 2014, 11:03:53 PM
Bob,
Just emailed you a couple of pages from my 67 P&A 34.  May turn up in your spam file.
I'm not the most skilled parts book interpreter.  But I think you are looking for pages from sections 10.096 and 11.209, right?
Phillip
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