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31  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one, on: December 09, 2014, 05:40:55 PM
Why??? Why would you want to redesign a 67 or 68 or 69, when there are still so many 80s cars on the road that were designed by government regulations and the business office?
32  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: COST OF BUYING CARS WITH OR WITHOUT RUST on: December 06, 2014, 03:29:26 PM
Ok lots of good information so far but what about project valuation, what is some of the best places to go that has real world values on project cars... e bay? NADA?  I mean if your son or best friend wanted to get started fixing up 67-69 camaro's where would you send them.
NADA is more realistic in their values, but Hagerty lists prices according to condition. Both presume the car is drivable. But there is a $30,000 difference between the values of both on a #4 69 Z....
I'd join a local club and talk with as many local restorers as I could.  If there are local buyers that will be honest with you, they can give you an idea.
Working out a price point is getting harder every day.
33  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: COST OF BUYING CARS WITH OR WITHOUT RUST on: December 05, 2014, 04:09:43 PM
First, do your research! Then, figure out how much you want to put into it!  Stick to it....
And for the unskilled the best rule is buy it already restored... Most cars (outside of a really good deal or a really rare car with an inflated price) cost more to restore than buy outright.  But that's not your question...
On the whole my rule of thumb is I don't want to have to do more than a 40% restoration overall.
The frame and the drivetrain are the "bones and heart" of a car.  If they look bad, walk away. Unless you just happen to have a drivetrain in your garage that you are dying to put into something, but that means a low ball offer.
And then, yes, start adding up the body and interior parts and subtract that from the buying price if it is over priced according to your research.
I've got a buddy who takes half the price of needed parts and adds that in for his time.  He clearly states his "deductions" describing the work needed.  Most of the time he does get the car for his price... and he buys several each year.  And he describes the cars he didn't get as "Well, I've been laughed at before...."
Unless you have access to a paint booth or want a rat rod, you need to know paint prices  I know that's not a part of the negotiating on a rusty car, but it is still an out of pocket issue.  If you spend more than 40% repairing and replacing rusted stuff, then you are likely to wind up "under water" on the car....
Of course, if I ever find a 61 Impala like I drove in high school, I'd probably pay three times what it is worth even if it is a pile of rust.  I'll hold it together with a metallic paint job!
34  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68/67 speedo/tach bezel chrome repair adhesive rings on: December 05, 2014, 08:10:12 AM
Practice lining them up a time or two before you take the backing off. I put them on top to bottom with a roller to avoid air bubbles and stretching. It takes steady hands...
35  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New to CRG from N Texas on: December 04, 2014, 08:56:05 PM
Welcome! How about a little more commentary/history on these pictures?
36  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: A sad goodbye on: December 04, 2014, 03:57:58 PM
  Bummer, but I hope you enjoy the new digs as much as the Camaro. Please stay active on CRG! The more input the better.
37  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68/67 speedo/tach bezel chrome repair adhesive rings on: December 01, 2014, 05:38:04 PM
I've used them. They look and fit fine.
38  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Charlotte New Car Show on: November 25, 2014, 08:24:00 AM
Lookin' good Phillip, what do they call this show?


Thanks.
Charlotte Auto Show
It is mostly a new car show put on by local dealers to stir up sales. Ford had the aluminum truck and Chevy their Trax, small SUV.
A few makes had classic cars with their new ones, including a beautiful 55 Cadillac convertible.
For the last few years there has been a "History of Cars" display. That's where we come in. Our club had cars from 1914 to the 70s. In years past there have been cars from Rick H's collection.
The show gives our club a large donation for bringing the old cars out, which goes to our scholarship foundation.
39  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Hose Clamps on: November 24, 2014, 05:52:56 PM
Re pops I bought were junk. They were a kit.

X3 I wound up throwing away half the ones that came in the kit for my 68.  You could not make them fit....
40  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Charlotte New Car Show on: November 24, 2014, 05:48:02 PM
Wish I would had gone...
Well, at the last minute I even had two extra tickets....  Roll Eyes
They didn't advertise this year like they have in the past, but there was a good crowd on Saturday.
41  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Which old car would you choose? on: November 24, 2014, 05:41:54 PM
I like old pickup trucks...

X2
But what would be your plans for them?  Restore... show... drive?
Of what you have pictured, the pickups would most likely draw the most interest and value.
You might want to post on the appropriate AACA forums for more information on the actual vehicle(s).  There's a forum there for most makes.
Let us know what you do.  Grin
42  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Charlotte New Car Show on: November 22, 2014, 05:57:24 PM
Here's a picture of the 68 at the Charlotte New Car Show.  Our club displayed forty-some cars from 1914 to 1978 in a section called "The History of Cars".
That's a brand new restoration of a 442 parked next to me.  Beautiful car!
(Sorry about the glare in the picture.  Cars look great under the bright lights, but it makes for lousy pictures...)
43  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Shipping Data Report vs Trim Tag on: November 05, 2014, 07:35:21 AM
Gary,
That's not correct. Orders were placed sometimes months in advance.
The tag was made for the build, not for the order.
That being said, is Gary's conclusion that the VIN will get you closer to the build date than the tag (without other documentation) more valid? A combination of both?
44  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Who's going to SEMA ? on: November 03, 2014, 12:14:40 PM
Bring us back a list of some of the cool new products!
45  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Part numbers for 67 front and rear glass reveal clips on: October 29, 2014, 07:33:31 PM
Glad it worked out for you.
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