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2071  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Still confused on Smog systems!!!! on: March 26, 2006, 03:02:18 PM
Not trying to beg the point, but doesn't Kurt's report on emmissions make that clear?

To quote:
"In 1968 and 1969, the California and federal emissions requirements were the same and all cars were built to the same 50-state standard. The AIR system was installed on all L6 cars with manual transmissions, all small blocks with manual transmissions, and all Camaros with big blocks. (Chevelles and full-size cars with the 396/325hp engine and TH400 transmission were the only 68-69 big block cars to not have smog pumps.) Only the automatic L6 and automatic small block Camaros did not have smog pumps, instead they had the simpler Controlled Combustion System. Generally speaking, an automatic car required less aggressive emission control than a manual transmission car because the engine load (and carburetor fuel metering consistency) was more stable and predictable."

My 68 L30 is a southern car (out of Florida) but is automatic, so it does not have the AIR system.  But if you want to restore it to L30/M20 (great idea, by the way) then the report says, "all small block with manual transmissions" did.
2072  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Vinyl or Not? on: March 24, 2006, 11:35:52 AM
Up to 330 views and got 30 votes...  Seems like you get a vote for about every ten views...  PLEASE VOTE!
2073  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 250 Fender Emblems on: March 23, 2006, 12:26:08 PM
If you have exhausted most of the nationally known sources, try these guys...

This is part of the Modern Automotive Group in Winston-Salem, NC.  (I see you are from Georgia... Lived in Stone Mountain for three years, myself.) Modern Chevrolet has their own classic parts department.  I know they used to stock some 250 stuff, and because of their inventory, it usually just pays to call and ask.  --I'd call, not email.  Lots of times, their guys will try and figure out where yoiu can find it even if they have discontinued it. 

And good for you on keeping it original!
2074  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Z23 and Z87 Differences? on: March 23, 2006, 10:06:10 AM
Here's where Kurt sent Supernova a while back in response to his question about RPO codes:

I got interested in that thread, wanting to know more about my 68 interior.
Rich has two charts where you can compare Z23 and Z87.  I found it to be more helpful (readable) than even the GM RPO list.

Supernova's thread was

Hope this helps!
2075  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Vinyl or Not? on: March 22, 2006, 01:33:26 PM
Thanks, John.  I stand corrected!
2076  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: HELP with suspension upgrade? on: March 22, 2006, 10:04:28 AM
Here's an "Amen" to Ed's advice.  If you are bouncing that bad, new shocks will not only help with the clearance issue, but you'll be amazed how well it handles period.  Right after I got my 68, new shocks was one of the first things I did.  It felt like a new car!  The shocks that the previous owner had put on it were obviously not original, but they were cheap junk. 

All the "coke bottle" body cars had a different sense of handling when they first came out.  I drove a 65 Mustang in the late 60s and it felt like the front end was floating.  A front end rebuild will tigthen all that up (at least better than the worn out original stuff).  I've driven a 69 Camaro that had a brand new Corvette front end.  It handled great, but it no longer had that 1st Generation feel.  I still say when you get it all "tuned" right, there is nothing like driving a 1st Generation Camaro.  No, it does not respond as well as the little black sports car I drive every day, but I still love it!
2077  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Conv. Front Cocktail shakers on: March 20, 2006, 11:58:19 AM
Have you seen this?  It's a start...
2078  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Vinyl or Not? on: March 20, 2006, 11:30:47 AM
OK, so far we've gotten about 250 views and only 26 votes.  PLEASE VOTE!

Dab67, You're going to make us wait till April?!?  Royal Plum was another one of the great 60s/70s colors (at least in my opinion... One of my friends used to have a plum colored AMX that drew crowds at shows like a magnet.).  Cannot wait to see it!

Summertime, I'd love to see that black on black.  That's timeless!  (But hard to keep clean... I've got a new all black car and would love to keep it out of the rain...)

That's worth knowing that cars with vinyl tops may not have gotten as much TLC at the factory.
2079  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Vinyl or Not? on: March 19, 2006, 02:44:42 PM
I guess that is an important point.  First, yellow cars do look good with black vinyl.  Second, vinyl is a 60s and 70s look.
2080  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: orginal T3 headlights on: March 17, 2006, 11:45:01 AM
As a matter of fact, you just missed a set that came off a 69... but don't worry I counted five off of Camaros and about 30 more that should work.
2081  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: cloning on: March 17, 2006, 11:36:34 AM
OK, you have to post us a picture...

My 68 was SS cloned by the previous owner.  Until I go to have it repainted, I'm driving it as is.  Then, I'm going back to original.  After all, isn't that what we are all about?  We love the Camaro --the original Camaro.

As to the black vinyl top, the previous owner added it to my buttewrnut yellow car.  I'll have to admit... it looks good.  I've seen several posts on other sites that claim a butternut yellow car is "incomplete" without that vinyl top.  But then, in both our cases, it would not be original.  You might want to look at my poll:

Of course, your car is your car... and if you are not going to show it... then it is up to you... as long as we all do like Rich69rs said and disclose at sale...

Let us know what you decide!
2082  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Vinyl or Not? on: March 16, 2006, 06:38:20 PM
Thanks for the posts!  I've been out of town a few days, but now I can see a pattern to the voting.

Please vote!
2083  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Howdy! ...and a Fan blade question on: March 13, 2006, 09:24:46 PM
I really did measure it center to center.  But I'll go back and do it, again!  .25" isn't that big a difference, so I'll make doubly sure and let you know. Grin
So, are 3" for small block and 3.25" for big block? Huh
2084  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Rebuild or Replace Engine and Transmission on: March 13, 2006, 09:15:18 PM
Yes, take John's advice, get it running and see what you've got.
If it turns out to be a piece of junk, that's a different story.  And what Rich69rs said is also true in the southeast.
If we are really Camaro lovers, we need to preserve them as best we can. 

Either way, you've got the potential for a great, classic ride! Grin
2085  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Vinyl or Not? on: March 11, 2006, 07:54:25 PM
Was it much trouble (beyond the rust) preparing the roof for painting?
I've know guys would did away with their vinyl, but never heard them talk about sanding the roof to get it ready to paint.
Thanks for the info. Grin

Please vote!!!
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