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1966  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: PTB stamps on: September 09, 2006, 05:45:51 PM

Here's a good example of why we should all go slow with the rattle can...
1967  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 Radio on: September 09, 2006, 05:32:23 PM

Thanks for the "frame of reference" on the radios.

I'm thinking seriously about finding an AM that looks good, even if it doesn't play, for juding purposes.  I understand from a previous post that some of the hideaway radio/CD players are pretty good.  Don't play the radio now that much.  I'd rather listen to the car and the road.

You're on the list...
1968  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 Radio on: September 09, 2006, 05:06:01 PM
Soooooo, now that I know what to look for.  What do you guys think an AM or AM/FM is worth?  I see them on Ebay, but you can't really tell what shape they are in.  So next week in Charlotte, what should I pay?  I've gotten emails from three others besides myself asking me to look...

Marty, are any of those "several" sitting on a shelf?
1969  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 Radio on: September 08, 2006, 09:03:20 AM
Well, my part of this little mystery seems solved.  Judging by the clear glass it must be from a Firebird.  Looking closely at the faceplate and knobs, you can see little swirl marks, which I'm guessing came from something like a jewelers cloth.  That would explain how "new" it looks.  (But since we have no history on the car, there's no real way to know.) Can't get good enough detail in a picture to really show the swirls.  He says we'll pull the faceplate after the show.
I appreciate the help.  Now, if I can find anything that looks half that good...
1970  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: cowl trim tag on: September 07, 2006, 09:16:53 AM
Great on the Yellow!  I know everybody paints red nowadays, but in 68 yellow was cool!  Grin

OK, the Impala Rochester is an obvious sign of a shade tree rebuild.  But the hobby has coined a sutable name for such a car: "a driver".  For now, that's what mine is...

The D66 console was certainly a popular option and lots of Plain Janes were ordered with it.  Don't have my RPO codes with me, but the M-21 is a a shade tree stretch for a 327.  I think that was for Zs and BBs.  Do any numbers confirm your 3-speed guess?  (I know you know all this... In the end we driver owners still research through the numbers to unravel the mystery of what was done to the car over the years; and yes, get an idea of what it looked like originally.  Somewhere in Florida near where my car got rebuilt (by an unknow person --that much I know from the previous owner) there was a wrecked Chevy II and my Camaro got its motor and drive train.)

The front end was a common problem.  Coke bottle bodies were bad for that.  The Mustang was the worst.  I had a 65 Mustang in the 70s that drove like a battleship until I reworked the whole front end.  Frankly, any car over 20 years old, you ought to check the suspension and electrical first.  (I know we all look at the motor first!) I've got a restorer friend who rips out the wiring harness first thing --no matter how good it looks.

You say it had a vinyl top.  Needless to say, I think Butternut Yellow needs a black vinyl top.  Grin  Grin  Grin
1971  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: site gone! on: September 07, 2006, 08:13:36 AM
The same thing happened for some folks with this site several months ago.  In a few cases it took several days to get back on. In fact, for about 2 hours last night I couldn't connect with CRG.  Contrary to popular belief, most web sites do not have an endless capacity, and sometimes they are down for maintenance.  Even large corporate sites like utility companies experience slow response periods.  RamAirDave gave you the best advice.  Clear everything out and start from scratch with your link.  Beyond that be patient.  If everything else connects with your computer, it's probably not you.

Come to think of it, on really hot days some 50s and 60s cars had this "mysterious" starting problem.  After they had been driven for several hours, if you turned them off and then tried to start them right back up, they wouldn't start.  Some owners spend big bucks on new starters, batteries, etc; but the problem still persisted.  I knew a shade tree mechanic who gave the best advice, "Wait five minutes and see what happens." 
1972  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: cowl trim tag on: September 06, 2006, 03:35:53 PM

Sadly, Dave is right.  68 trim tags don't tell you about options.
But then, everyone has that issue and without the papers no one has absolute proof.
So, you going to have to look at numbers and "likelihood".
Is the car matching numbers?
What about the RPOs doesn't make sense?
1973  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: How Much Do You Drive? on: September 05, 2006, 03:58:47 PM
I drove over 200 miles this Labor Day weekend --dodging the rain clouds.  Got an email from Dave, who drove to a car show and showed his car for the first time!  How about you?

Vote and Post!
1974  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring clean original trunk, touch up or strip it??? on: September 05, 2006, 08:53:55 AM
Keep us all updated on your progress.  I've learned more from other people's questions (and mistakes!) than my own.
1975  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: U46 Light Monitoring on: September 05, 2006, 08:51:30 AM
Thanks.  Ddin't catch the ashtray being included.  Like I said above, I've seen the obvious stuff (Assembly, Service, etc.).  What I'm hoping to find is GM info. on their use of fiber optics.  Guess I need to search the Vette info. from that time.  I do understand it was standard in Vettes by 1968.

I have found that sort of stuff may not have been as cutting edge in the 60s  as I thougt.  Apparently, Alexander Graham Bell held the first US patent.

So, I guess my question is:  "Does anybody have any tech info. on GM's use of fiber optics?"
1976  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring clean original trunk, touch up or strip it??? on: September 04, 2006, 08:57:51 PM
If you were talking about "rattle canning" the engine compartment, I might say think twice.  Getting too quick with the spray can could coverup some original info. there.  But the trunk is a must do.  Enio45 is right.  In fact, lots of folks go straight to the trunk (looking for rust) when they first size up a car.
1977  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / U46 Light Monitoring on: September 04, 2006, 08:48:48 PM
I'm looking for more information on the U46 Light Monitoring option.  I know it appeared in Camaros in 1968 (standard on Vette) and was actually pretty advanced since it was fiber optic.  I've seen the option sheets in the AIM and the description of how the system worked in 12-2 of the 68  Service Manual.  Does anybody have any further information or know where I could find it?
Appreciate the help!
1978  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 Radio on: September 03, 2006, 11:33:39 AM
Thanks, Ed.  I can probaly talk him into taking the face plate off even before the show.  At least then, he will know.
1979  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 Radio on: September 03, 2006, 09:31:41 AM
Mr396, I may be mis-speaking about the radio being a repo.  Ed has me thinking it is a Firebird radio --that looks brand new. (I wonder if you can refinish the face plate, etc and make it look new?)  He doesn't really know where it came from. (There's absolutely no history on his car, and for all we know, a previous owner got it off Ebay. It's one of those cars that looks original, but when you start checking numbers, it's not...)  But now that I have the part numbers, I may offer to help him pull and check it --after he shows it.  If I find out anything worth noting, I'll let you know.

Come to think of it... do radios have the part number on them? Where?

Thanks for the info. Ed!

I'm already looking for parts for a couple of fellows in Charlotte in Sept.  Maybe, I'll luck on to somebody with a truck load of radios who doesn't know what they're worth...  Not counting on that!  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
1980  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Rear Axle Stamp on: September 03, 2006, 09:12:11 AM

I'll look for the cover... email me about how much are you willing to pay before Sept 15.  I have no clue about its value.

So, from Rich's picture I'm assuming that the powerglide linkage is always a problem on getting the numbers --unless you move the linkage or have the motor out???  Bummer!
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