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1891  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1967 SS350 Fuel Pump #'s on: September 12, 2006, 09:12:13 PM
Ed,
A cell phone call got this out of the October 1, 1967 P&A:

No listing of 6416148.

67 ALL (327, 350) (2nd design),
67 Camaro (302),
67 Chevy w/dual exh. (283) (1st design),
68 ALL w/4BC (327, 350).....................(type 40524)  .............6416886

[some Chevy & Chevelle info. on 40503]
67 ALL (327, 350) (1st design),
68 ALL (307) .........................(type 40503)...........................6416712

1892  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: U46 Light Monitoring on: September 12, 2006, 08:41:21 PM
Thanks a bunch Steve!
The jewel information was what I was looking for... but I really didn't know the lingo.
Do you happen to know the RPO on the ashtray option?
I've not seen the 68 Finger Tip Facts book.  Obviously, I need to get one.

Appreciate it.
1893  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: PTB stamps on: September 12, 2006, 08:32:24 PM
x-77,

I'd like to see those 67 pics.  You cannot use the Quick Reply to post a picture.  You have to use the Reply at the beginning or the end of the whole thread.  On that Reply page, use Additional Options and Attach the picture.  If you use the standard email size picture (640x480, 128K or less), you shouldn't have a problem.
1894  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Car show judging on: September 10, 2006, 02:15:12 PM
Not worth getting upset at a local show...
Modified --yes; or even worst, imporperly restored.
At a local show (or any show), you need to know what the judging standards are.  Which organization sets the standards?  Some give feedback, some don't!  What are the categories of judging?  Who decides which category? The worst thing in the world is to put your car in a show where the standards don't match what you have tried to do with the car.  Sounds like that's what happened to you.
Although in this case, it was probably folks who like "old cars" and they "liked" the other car more than yours.  By most anyone's standards that's not judging...  It's just a good afternoon... And that's not worth being upset...
1895  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 Radio on: September 10, 2006, 07:07:09 AM
Thanks Sebastien.  Their prices seem to be right in the middle of the range that Ed provided.  That at least gives me a good starting point.  You guys have been really helpful!  Thanks again!
1896  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: PTB stamps on: September 09, 2006, 05:45:51 PM
Hotrod,

Here's a good example of why we should all go slow with the rattle can...
1897  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 Radio on: September 09, 2006, 05:32:23 PM
Ed,

Thanks for the "frame of reference" on the radios.

I'm thinking seriously about finding an AM that looks good, even if it doesn't play, for juding purposes.  I understand from a previous post that some of the hideaway radio/CD players are pretty good.  Don't play the radio now that much.  I'd rather listen to the car and the road.

You're on the list...
1898  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 Radio on: September 09, 2006, 05:06:01 PM
Soooooo, now that I know what to look for.  What do you guys think an AM or AM/FM is worth?  I see them on Ebay, but you can't really tell what shape they are in.  So next week in Charlotte, what should I pay?  I've gotten emails from three others besides myself asking me to look...

Marty, are any of those "several" sitting on a shelf?
1899  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 Radio on: September 08, 2006, 09:03:20 AM
Well, my part of this little mystery seems solved.  Judging by the clear glass it must be from a Firebird.  Looking closely at the faceplate and knobs, you can see little swirl marks, which I'm guessing came from something like a jewelers cloth.  That would explain how "new" it looks.  (But since we have no history on the car, there's no real way to know.) Can't get good enough detail in a picture to really show the swirls.  He says we'll pull the faceplate after the show.
I appreciate the help.  Now, if I can find anything that looks half that good...
1900  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: cowl trim tag on: September 07, 2006, 09:16:53 AM
Great on the Yellow!  I know everybody paints red nowadays, but in 68 yellow was cool!  Grin

OK, the Impala Rochester is an obvious sign of a shade tree rebuild.  But the hobby has coined a sutable name for such a car: "a driver".  For now, that's what mine is...

The D66 console was certainly a popular option and lots of Plain Janes were ordered with it.  Don't have my RPO codes with me, but the M-21 is a a shade tree stretch for a 327.  I think that was for Zs and BBs.  Do any numbers confirm your 3-speed guess?  (I know you know all this... In the end we driver owners still research through the numbers to unravel the mystery of what was done to the car over the years; and yes, get an idea of what it looked like originally.  Somewhere in Florida near where my car got rebuilt (by an unknow person --that much I know from the previous owner) there was a wrecked Chevy II and my Camaro got its motor and drive train.)

The front end was a common problem.  Coke bottle bodies were bad for that.  The Mustang was the worst.  I had a 65 Mustang in the 70s that drove like a battleship until I reworked the whole front end.  Frankly, any car over 20 years old, you ought to check the suspension and electrical first.  (I know we all look at the motor first!) I've got a restorer friend who rips out the wiring harness first thing --no matter how good it looks.

You say it had a vinyl top.  Needless to say, I think Butternut Yellow needs a black vinyl top.  Grin  Grin  Grin
1901  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: camaros.net site gone! on: September 07, 2006, 08:13:36 AM
Johnny,
The same thing happened for some folks with this site several months ago.  In a few cases it took several days to get back on. In fact, for about 2 hours last night I couldn't connect with CRG.  Contrary to popular belief, most web sites do not have an endless capacity, and sometimes they are down for maintenance.  Even large corporate sites like utility companies experience slow response periods.  RamAirDave gave you the best advice.  Clear everything out and start from scratch with your link.  Beyond that be patient.  If everything else connects with your computer, it's probably not you.

Come to think of it, on really hot days some 50s and 60s cars had this "mysterious" starting problem.  After they had been driven for several hours, if you turned them off and then tried to start them right back up, they wouldn't start.  Some owners spend big bucks on new starters, batteries, etc; but the problem still persisted.  I knew a shade tree mechanic who gave the best advice, "Wait five minutes and see what happens." 
1902  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: cowl trim tag on: September 06, 2006, 03:35:53 PM
Hotrod,

Sadly, Dave is right.  68 trim tags don't tell you about options.
But then, everyone has that issue and without the papers no one has absolute proof.
So, you going to have to look at numbers and "likelihood".
Is the car matching numbers?
What about the RPOs doesn't make sense?
1903  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: How Much Do You Drive? on: September 05, 2006, 03:58:47 PM
I drove over 200 miles this Labor Day weekend --dodging the rain clouds.  Got an email from Dave, who drove to a car show and showed his car for the first time!  How about you?

Vote and Post!
1904  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring clean original trunk, touch up or strip it??? on: September 05, 2006, 08:53:55 AM
Keep us all updated on your progress.  I've learned more from other people's questions (and mistakes!) than my own.
1905  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: U46 Light Monitoring on: September 05, 2006, 08:51:30 AM
Thanks.  Ddin't catch the ashtray being included.  Like I said above, I've seen the obvious stuff (Assembly, Service, etc.).  What I'm hoping to find is GM info. on their use of fiber optics.  Guess I need to search the Vette info. from that time.  I do understand it was standard in Vettes by 1968.

I have found that sort of stuff may not have been as cutting edge in the 60s  as I thougt.  Apparently, Alexander Graham Bell held the first US patent.

So, I guess my question is:  "Does anybody have any tech info. on GM's use of fiber optics?"
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