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1861  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Pilot Bushing Installation Depth?? on: November 21, 2006, 03:59:55 PM
We're with you, RobF!  I love my Camaro, but any 30s Ford is a great temptation.  Of course, it's not just the cash for the car and resto.  You also have to have a place to store it!

You've got any easy job if you are trying to kill the upcoming Camaro.  GM will do most of your work for you, I'm afraid! Can you tell us what you have worked on???
1862  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1968 327 / 210HP - TORQUE? on: November 18, 2006, 02:12:54 PM
TStone,
I got that figure straight out of the 68 Camaro literature that GM sends out when you call their toll free number and ask for it.  The info is free!

Look here: http://www.camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#InfoSources

Although, I do agree with these other guys.  That's pretty optimistc.
1863  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 68 camaro 7 blade fan 3931002 on: November 17, 2006, 07:38:31 PM
Look here:
http://www.camaros.org/coolingsystems.shtml

And here:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1211.msg7044#msg7044
1864  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: lock nut for the shifter ball on: November 17, 2006, 05:03:27 PM
The P&A 30A describes it as a "Knob Unit" and clearly shows it in two parts just like John described it.

1865  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: How do members stand on dealer installed undercoating? on: November 17, 2006, 04:23:23 PM
John, Steve, or anybody,

Please post a picture of how the original undercoating looks now in the wheelwell.
I'd appreciate it!
1866  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1968 327 / 210HP - TORQUE? on: November 16, 2006, 01:01:23 PM
320 @ 2400
1867  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Vinyl or Not? on: November 15, 2006, 11:13:18 AM
OK, we got fifty votes... so I'm closing down.

Thanks to everyone!
1868  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Car show judging on: November 14, 2006, 04:55:56 PM
Whoa... wait a minute...  Some judges do... and it depends on the judging standards.  There are some groups that judge the car more against itself than the other cars.  There are some categories where the COPO is not in the same group as the SS-350.

Like I said before:
At a local show (or any show), you need to know what the judging standards are.  Which organization sets the standards?  Some give feedback, some don't!  What are the categories of judging?  Who decides which category? The worst thing in the world is to put your car in a show where the standards don't match what you have tried to do with the car. 
1869  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: JL8 prices on: November 14, 2006, 04:40:25 PM
http://commerce.thinkwebinc.com/camarocrossram/products.asp?id=3

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JL8-JL-8-4-WHEEL-DISK-BRAKES-FOR-1968-1969-CAMARO-NOVA_W0QQitemZ120052404917QQihZ002QQcategoryZ34199QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

--Just FYI, not a recommendation...
1870  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Frt. Tire size on: November 13, 2006, 10:23:59 PM
Take a look:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1098.msg6646#msg6646
And here:
http://camaroz28.com/services/calcs/
That one click on Effective Tire Size...

Remember wheel wells for 67 and 68 weren't as condusive to larger tires as 69 and later.

But yes my 15X7s on front are not that large, but they still rub a little on a bump, etc.
1871  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Lean Left? on: November 11, 2006, 04:05:16 PM
Tom may have something... 

If all those cars that lean left have original springs and original seats, then the driver's seat springs would also sag a bit, while the passenger's would not...  You'll have to admit, the driver's side seat springs always give out before the passengers...  Wink

Still, the tendency I've noticed over the years in springs is more weakness front to back not left to right.

BTW, come on, Hotrod, my other theory has considerable worth!  If the build date on those 69s is before the end of January in 69, then they would definitely lean to the left.  If after, then to the right.  Janaury of 69 is when Johnson left and Nixon came in.  Chuckle, right back at you...   Grin
1872  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Lean Left? on: November 09, 2006, 05:26:26 PM
Sounds like bad ride height adjustment...
While there was 1/2" variance allowance, I doubt if that consitutes a tendency or an urban myth.
Of course, everybody and everything leaned a little further to the "left" in the 60s...
1873  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Vinyl or Not? on: November 07, 2006, 05:42:15 PM
I'd start with Por-15 or a similar product.  I've seen Por-15 work very well on some marine applications.
Look at this: http://www.por15.com/

Seriously, after restoration you plan to keep your car outside in high humidity?
1874  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Vinyl or Not? on: November 07, 2006, 10:18:17 AM
Shift 1313,

Sounds like you've had all those body resto. nightmares rolled into one.  We definitely know that design tended to encourage some of the rust.  The vinyl only complicates the problem --holding the water in.  And yes, inheriting a poor and improper restoration is perhaps the biggest nightmare.  A few years ago, I had a guy from a major restoration shop in SC tell me, "For every minute it takes to paint a car, you need to spend thirty prepping it."

Right now, my 68 is a mutt driver.  Eventually, when I do fully restore it, I will probably put the vinyl on it.  The original color is butternut yellow and a black vinyl top really sets yellow (and several other colors) off.  Having said that, I've literally talked with dozens of people at shows and meetings about vinyl tops.  There are lots of war stories about rust, bubbling and cracking, (Of course, that's true with or without vinyl.) about liking or not liking the look (So far, this poll proves that a vast majority like the look --at least on the right car), and about originality.  (I must confess my trim tag is YY, and that's the one point where I'm seriously considering not going original in the restoration.)

With or without the vinyl and even as a driver, I try not to drive when the road is wet, let alone when it is raining.  When I wash the car, about an hour after drying it, I go back with a blower (low speed) and dry out the underbody and all the seams.  If anyone wonders about rust, they ought to try that.  A lot of water does sit under the vinyl trim, etc.

Thanks to everybody for their input!
1875  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: How do members stand on dealer installed undercoating? on: November 06, 2006, 05:28:59 PM
I prefer to have the undercoating on my survivor car removed (carefully). Underneath is a pristine underside with a lot good information such as markings, plating and over spray patterns. I have seen a car heavily undercoated, and then with it removed....wow, what a difference. Again you must take precautions when removing the undercoating, but the results will be well worth the effort. One of my goals is to remove it from the underside of my car.
JMHO.

Steve

Vintage Camaro


What process did you use --even carefully-- and still find markings?  Huh Huh  Huh
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