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1861  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 73 Camaro on: December 23, 2006, 06:43:01 PM
And that picture is Camarosource's example of a 73 RS Z28...

The Rally Sport package could be ordered with the Z28 (and the sport coupe and the Type LT [Luxury Touring] --there was no SS) in 73.  Technically, those split bumpers were called bumperettes and the nose was resilient frame.  In 73 the Z could get A/C as an option, but the 350-4 V8 only mustered 245 hp.
1862  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro History on: December 23, 2006, 06:37:40 PM
What about the Dec. - Jan intro. of the Z 302 that went racing?
Driven by Mark Donohue, the Team Penske Camaro won 10 of 13 Trans-Am races to dominate the series, winning the 1968 SCCA Trans-Am Series Championship with 222 points. 
Most the Camaro histories, however, say GM executives were reluctant to "break the rules" and get into racing.  That's probably why Camaro has no "big name" and no song.
1863  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 73 Camaro on: December 23, 2006, 06:04:09 PM
Bet it looked like this 73 RS with those split bumpers --the nose was also "bump resistant":
1864  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Harrison AC Evaporator Box Decal on: December 22, 2006, 10:15:10 AM
I know I've read somewhere that the Harrison decal mounted vertically on the evaporator box.  Does anyone have a picture of an original or can you tell me exactly where (and how) it goes?

Appreciate the help!
1865  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1967-1969 Camaro Original Trunklid Value? on: December 19, 2006, 09:41:00 PM
Limit that to 68 -69... The original 67 design did not have factory-installed spoiler provisions:
1866  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Tower Clamps on: December 17, 2006, 09:33:34 PM
I've seen varying opinions about when tower clamps were discontinued.  Does anyone have a definitive date or was it a gradual thing, especially for Camaros?
1867  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Window Sticker Font on: December 17, 2006, 02:52:03 PM
Like JohnZ said a while back, GM was (and is) in the business to sell cars, not document them for us to restore years later.  That's part of it...
I did read where for $45, proof of ownership and the VIN, the Chrysler historic group can give you a "build card" on practically any car they build from 32 to 67.  Wouldn't that be nice?!?
GM could insist that any company that does a repo. W/S puts REPO on it...
1868  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Need LA Experts - paints, undercarriage, and primers on: December 16, 2006, 08:54:25 AM
Here's the latest discussion:;all
1869  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 68 RS/SS Data Plate on: December 15, 2006, 03:19:53 PM
As you are discovering, we 68 owners cannot glean a lot from the trim tag...
Also, check that ST68-14327.  From your description, it should read ST68-12437 =V-8 2 door sport coupe.  05D is 4th week of May. TR-714 is black custom buckets.  Q was not an exterior color code before or after the January 68 color revision.  (That's why Daniel wants to see the tag.)
BTW, those "turn signal indicators" are a whole lot more than that.  It's RPO U46, the Light Monitoring System.  Take a look at this thread:
1870  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Window Sticker Font on: December 14, 2006, 05:13:10 PM
True...  Absolutely... 

But I can also look at those other pictures, including the vin, the cowl tag and engine stamp with some confidence because of what I have learned from CRG.  I also chuckled at the fan shroud sticker as overzealous restoration because JohnZ has told us more than once they don't belong on a 1st generation Camaro. I've checked through some of the RPO codes from the window sticker from the CRG RPO listing, just like Kurt referrred to.  I agree with Daniel the water stains are suspect.

Now, somebody please help the rest of us, so we can at least sight identify a fake...  The reason I should know about the window sticker is because there are no ECL's?  In other words, did all 67, 68, 69 window stickers have ECLs?

1871  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Window Sticker Font on: December 11, 2006, 04:50:45 PM
Well, I know Kurt is right and in the end I have to agree... but there are plenty of us out here who are just trying to learn.  I learned a whole lot more than I previously knew from this thread.  Thanks! ADz28 for asking the question and CRG for the info!

Richard, I think you and I are about at the same place on this kind of information.  I wish we lived in a world where people loved cars more than profit.

With what is happening in the hobby now and where prices are going, there is certainly a need for caution.
1872  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Window Sticker Font on: December 10, 2006, 08:54:23 PM
So, is it fair to say there is no definitive source for window sticker decoding?  Huh  Huh  Huh
1873  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: GM Mark of Excellence on: December 09, 2006, 09:54:26 PM
Thanks, Dave.

Here's where I wound up:

I'll try their tech line on Monday.

The belts themselves are in great shape.  It's just the lack of paint on the GM button.  Still, would like to know if anyone knows what color of blue that is...
1874  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Seat Belt Tag on: December 08, 2006, 06:04:23 PM
The seat belt tag reads:

Hamill          1968
Model          137

Would that be OK for a 68 12D?

1875  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Spoiler AND Rear Antenna on: December 08, 2006, 11:28:43 AM
It's you're responsibility to prove originality if there is an originality question... not the judges.

But since you've now gotten three replies... none of them comical...  OK, I'll bite:
"Pictures...?  Pictures...?  We don't know nothing about no stinking pictures...!"
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