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1846  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Tower Clamps on: January 08, 2007, 10:09:29 AM
Dave, thanks for the 69 AIM info.  I've already got my tower clamps, but that's good advice about how to install them.  One of JohnZ's posts made me aware of AMK.  Thanks, again.  Grin

Firstgen, Thanks! The 68 AIM does show spring clamps on the heater hoses.  Grin

Now, if I can get someone with a 67 AIM to respond, I'll have a complete answer (for Camaros, at least) to give to my friends next week....  Help!  Huh

1847  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: engine mount part numbers on: January 08, 2007, 09:58:27 AM
Looks like 67-68 302 engine mounting brackets...

Check 3955783 and see if the 7 is a 1 = 3955183...

72 P&A 30A says:

           0.029 BRACKET, engine mounting

67-68  All (302).....3955183 L.H.     2.00   engine mtg. to side member
67-68  All (302).....3980938 R.H.     2.00   engine mtg. to side member
1848  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: tach number on: January 07, 2007, 07:21:14 AM
You're right.  Don't mistake my questions for disagreement.  I'm just trying to learn.
77-chev says above, his car is a Norwood 4th week of September, so your info is showroom fresh.
1849  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: tach number on: January 06, 2007, 05:42:24 PM
Hang in there!  There are a lot of us un-doing other folks car butchering out here.  In the long run, it's a noble deed... and fun!

Thanks! By Oct. of 67 it reads like Ed posted above.  I'm still trying to fathom all the ins and outs of GM P&As.

1850  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: tach number on: January 06, 2007, 11:47:49 AM
Which P&A did you take that from?
1851  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Tower Clamps on: January 04, 2007, 11:02:34 PM
Thanks, Gary!

Yes, I do have a 68 Assembly Manual, and I am aware of the drawings for heater and radiator hoses that do show the clamps.  Actually, I'm going to change my radiator hose clamps to tower clamps when I do my annual fluids change in February.

My reason for asking about the tower clamps was from a local general discussion on originality about 1st generation Camaros (and same year Chevelles) across the board.  And I have yet to invest in 67 and 69 AIMs.  One of my Chevelle friends knew that there were various clamps being used during that period, but none of us knew exactly what and when.

This helps, and I will check that out in Team Camaro.

Appreciate it!  Grin
1852  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Tower Clamps on: January 04, 2007, 08:07:08 PM
Steve, I'm starting to understand how you feel when no one answers your questions...

Let me re-phrase mine: 

To be original should all first generation Camaros have tower clamps?

(I did find evidence of the tower clamps on 69s.  What I cannot find is when they were discontinued from general use...)
1853  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: tach number on: January 04, 2007, 06:13:19 PM
When you say stamped on the back, exactly where (what plate)?  Is it the head assembly?

FYI, according to the P&A the 67 Camaro Tach Assembly w/console guages (350, 396) was stamped 6468910 (or 6468696 -first design).  It literally says that "(stamped 6468910)".  Ed or someone with more P&A understanding could help.  (And yes, not all p/n from the P&A were the same as what was on the actual part.)
1854  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Will this fit? on: January 04, 2007, 09:08:36 AM
Front = 235/60/15
Rear = 255/60/15
About a year ago, my mechanic's assistant rotated front to back without asking or looking. (He was trying to be helpful.) I knew before I got the car backed out of the stall. 235/60/15 fills up the front well.
Like I said, I felt the scraping, but I haven't had the problem My68SS is describing... yet.
1855  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: L30/M20 on: January 03, 2007, 08:01:54 PM
Daniel's right, but have you looked at information sources:
--especially Colvin's Chevy By the Numbers?
1856  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: value of my camaro on: January 03, 2007, 07:58:40 PM
How true! I'm slowly but surely "reclaiming" one of those clone-rods right now.  Hang in there and make it right!
On New Year's day I went cruising and a young guy in a 2000 Camaro flagged me over.  He just wanted to look at my car.  That's when you know...
1857  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Will this fit? on: January 03, 2007, 07:54:16 PM
67 and 68 wheel wells are not as condusive to over sized tires as 69 and later --different design.
I've got them (15 x 7) on my 68 (from previous owner --a new set of tires and yes, I'm too cheap to not run them!).  They will work, but they will also bump and rub --even with a firm ride (mine does).
Where do they rub?  Obviously, in a full turn of the wheel, but also over bumps running straight.  And this is different from bottoming out. The actual rub on mine is more on the outside of the wheel and wheel well.  It's actually more of a scrape.  So far --after about 3000 miles-- no noticeable damage to tire or wheel well.
Yes, they do look great --if that's your preference.  But they don't look original.
Take a look at this thread and the other thread(s) it refers to:
1858  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Best source for resto parts on: December 26, 2006, 04:29:08 PM
"Restored" means different things to different people, and that definition is completely different for "show-n-shine" judging vs. originality judging; the goals are different, and so are the paths to follow to get there.  Smiley

Once again, John brings us to an "ultimate point"...

Dave has a good point that seems to be "truer" with each passing year --as it gets harder and harder to find original parts.  it would be great to know where to go to find the best reproduction part.  But that's not how restoration started.  It started by finding (hunting, scavenging, and begging --not ordering and installing) an orginal part and restoring it. I'm not sure who will decide, but someday reproduction may be the only option beyond a handful of truly original cars...

In the meantime, there are different judging standards (I love the "show-n-shine" comment, John!).  Again, it would be great if someone would set a concise and clear standard for Camaros --especially in terms of originality, but who would follow it and who would not?

I was looking at an "original"  WWI era Chevy the other day that has won a whole room full of trophies.  The owner winked at me and said, "It's the wong exterior color... Just like the Ford, it only came in black!"  Everything else is original (and thus, he wins originality awards), but it's his car and he painted it the way he wanted it...
1859  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro History on: December 23, 2006, 08:22:37 PM
You can already get some info. from GM about the new Camaro on their blogs: GM Fastlane and GM FYI.

It does not appear as if GM is placing much emphasis on Camaro history in their new car design...
 Sad  Sad  Sad
1860  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Harrison AC Evaporator Box Decal on: December 23, 2006, 06:46:24 PM
That does not look "vertical", does it?  Oh well...
Thanks! Richard.  And Merry Christmas to you!
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