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1846  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: L30/M20 on: January 03, 2007, 08:01:54 PM
Daniel's right, but have you looked at information sources:
--especially Colvin's Chevy By the Numbers?
1847  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: value of my camaro on: January 03, 2007, 07:58:40 PM
How true! I'm slowly but surely "reclaiming" one of those clone-rods right now.  Hang in there and make it right!
On New Year's day I went cruising and a young guy in a 2000 Camaro flagged me over.  He just wanted to look at my car.  That's when you know...
1848  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Will this fit? on: January 03, 2007, 07:54:16 PM
67 and 68 wheel wells are not as condusive to over sized tires as 69 and later --different design.
I've got them (15 x 7) on my 68 (from previous owner --a new set of tires and yes, I'm too cheap to not run them!).  They will work, but they will also bump and rub --even with a firm ride (mine does).
Where do they rub?  Obviously, in a full turn of the wheel, but also over bumps running straight.  And this is different from bottoming out. The actual rub on mine is more on the outside of the wheel and wheel well.  It's actually more of a scrape.  So far --after about 3000 miles-- no noticeable damage to tire or wheel well.
Yes, they do look great --if that's your preference.  But they don't look original.
Take a look at this thread and the other thread(s) it refers to:
1849  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Best source for resto parts on: December 26, 2006, 04:29:08 PM
"Restored" means different things to different people, and that definition is completely different for "show-n-shine" judging vs. originality judging; the goals are different, and so are the paths to follow to get there.  Smiley

Once again, John brings us to an "ultimate point"...

Dave has a good point that seems to be "truer" with each passing year --as it gets harder and harder to find original parts.  it would be great to know where to go to find the best reproduction part.  But that's not how restoration started.  It started by finding (hunting, scavenging, and begging --not ordering and installing) an orginal part and restoring it. I'm not sure who will decide, but someday reproduction may be the only option beyond a handful of truly original cars...

In the meantime, there are different judging standards (I love the "show-n-shine" comment, John!).  Again, it would be great if someone would set a concise and clear standard for Camaros --especially in terms of originality, but who would follow it and who would not?

I was looking at an "original"  WWI era Chevy the other day that has won a whole room full of trophies.  The owner winked at me and said, "It's the wong exterior color... Just like the Ford, it only came in black!"  Everything else is original (and thus, he wins originality awards), but it's his car and he painted it the way he wanted it...
1850  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro History on: December 23, 2006, 08:22:37 PM
You can already get some info. from GM about the new Camaro on their blogs: GM Fastlane and GM FYI.

It does not appear as if GM is placing much emphasis on Camaro history in their new car design...
 Sad  Sad  Sad
1851  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Harrison AC Evaporator Box Decal on: December 23, 2006, 06:46:24 PM
That does not look "vertical", does it?  Oh well...
Thanks! Richard.  And Merry Christmas to you!
1852  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 73 Camaro on: December 23, 2006, 06:43:01 PM
And that picture is Camarosource's example of a 73 RS Z28...

The Rally Sport package could be ordered with the Z28 (and the sport coupe and the Type LT [Luxury Touring] --there was no SS) in 73.  Technically, those split bumpers were called bumperettes and the nose was resilient frame.  In 73 the Z could get A/C as an option, but the 350-4 V8 only mustered 245 hp.
1853  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro History on: December 23, 2006, 06:37:40 PM
What about the Dec. - Jan intro. of the Z 302 that went racing?
Driven by Mark Donohue, the Team Penske Camaro won 10 of 13 Trans-Am races to dominate the series, winning the 1968 SCCA Trans-Am Series Championship with 222 points. 
Most the Camaro histories, however, say GM executives were reluctant to "break the rules" and get into racing.  That's probably why Camaro has no "big name" and no song.
1854  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 73 Camaro on: December 23, 2006, 06:04:09 PM
Bet it looked like this 73 RS with those split bumpers --the nose was also "bump resistant":
1855  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Harrison AC Evaporator Box Decal on: December 22, 2006, 10:15:10 AM
I know I've read somewhere that the Harrison decal mounted vertically on the evaporator box.  Does anyone have a picture of an original or can you tell me exactly where (and how) it goes?

Appreciate the help!
1856  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1967-1969 Camaro Original Trunklid Value? on: December 19, 2006, 09:41:00 PM
Limit that to 68 -69... The original 67 design did not have factory-installed spoiler provisions:
1857  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Tower Clamps on: December 17, 2006, 09:33:34 PM
I've seen varying opinions about when tower clamps were discontinued.  Does anyone have a definitive date or was it a gradual thing, especially for Camaros?
1858  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Window Sticker Font on: December 17, 2006, 02:52:03 PM
Like JohnZ said a while back, GM was (and is) in the business to sell cars, not document them for us to restore years later.  That's part of it...
I did read where for $45, proof of ownership and the VIN, the Chrysler historic group can give you a "build card" on practically any car they build from 32 to 67.  Wouldn't that be nice?!?
GM could insist that any company that does a repo. W/S puts REPO on it...
1859  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Need LA Experts - paints, undercarriage, and primers on: December 16, 2006, 08:54:25 AM
Here's the latest discussion:;all
1860  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 68 RS/SS Data Plate on: December 15, 2006, 03:19:53 PM
As you are discovering, we 68 owners cannot glean a lot from the trim tag...
Also, check that ST68-14327.  From your description, it should read ST68-12437 =V-8 2 door sport coupe.  05D is 4th week of May. TR-714 is black custom buckets.  Q was not an exterior color code before or after the January 68 color revision.  (That's why Daniel wants to see the tag.)
BTW, those "turn signal indicators" are a whole lot more than that.  It's RPO U46, the Light Monitoring System.  Take a look at this thread:
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