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1726  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 camaro restoration on: March 23, 2007, 08:27:40 AM
it's your car do what makes you happy. with that being said......do keep all the original stuff so you could change it back if you were so moved.

zbo2 has a point:  It is your car...  Now, if you had posted under Originality, I'd be saying, "No... No... NO".  But you asked this question in General Discussion.  So what will make you happy for your car --long term?!?  Why did you buy it?  For what purpose will you restore it?  Will it be a trailered show car? (Which in your case, with those changes it will always be a clone...)  A drag strip champion? (Certainly not, without modification)  Or a cruiser? (For which a 327 with PG with a little paint and chrome was made for.)

A few years ago, I bought a Camaro similar to what you have.  A previous owner had started the cloning process.  It has actually cost quite a bit of money to restore it back to original.  And I'm still working on it.  The truly sad part is, he scrapped the original motor.  In that sense --even though his intentions were good and he passed it along at a fair price-- something irreplaceable was lost to the hobby.  I've got a restoration buddy who says, "It's like trying to replace a unicorn.  There aren't many left around!"

Also, if you make changes to the car and some day decide to sell it, document what you change as you go and sell it for what it really is.  We all owe that to the hobby!

Let us know what you decide and post pictures along the way.
1727  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 Air Conditioning -Sealing on: March 22, 2007, 07:57:53 PM
Mark,

No holes, but I'll have to look about dimples...
It's going to be over a week before I can get to the car.  I have to work all weekend to help pay for the toys.
Thanks for the info on the glue.  I've actually got a tube of the same thing.  It's worth knowing it stands up under the heat.  I still think I'm going to glue my AC seals.  For my build date, that seems to be correct.  If it comes off after a while, I'll go back and clip it...
Thanks!

..Now, if anybody knows a source for the clips, let us know!
1728  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Vin and other numbers...Am I interpreting correctly? on: March 22, 2007, 05:06:19 PM
Yes, Nicki, welcome!

I'd agree with any of the parts sources already listed.  Let me put in a good word for my friends at Classic Muscle: http://oldmusclecars.com/  They are out of NC.  I mention them because they are often helpful with phone orders.  I've ordered parts from California (to NC), however, and received them within a few days.

Take a look at this post on third party hosting of pictures: http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1643.0

CRG has taught me the only way to learn is to ask!  And seriously, no offense to Paul, but my spell checker says "Camaro" is not a word!  Actually, it's not... it's an experience.   Grin

My wife is going to become a certified AACA judge at a school in May.  Cannot get her to post here.  She is only interested in Pre-War cars.  If they had made Camaro in the 30s, she'd be all over it!

And Dave, I appreciate your confidence.  But let me be clear!  John (and the CRG) has knowledge.  I've got opinions...   Roll Eyes
1729  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 Air Conditioning -Sealing on: March 22, 2007, 08:40:55 AM
Mark,
I have ordered a new core seal. Now, I'm trying to decide about clips or tape.  With my 68 12D build date, the AIM says tape.  I really appreciate the clip pictures, however.

Are the shroud seals you made door insulation?  How are they attached?  Glue or tape?  How's that working?
We've got a question if the tape worked well with the heat.

Thanks for the input...
1730  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Vinyl or Not? on: March 21, 2007, 03:24:49 PM
Thanks for those pictures, Danny.  I wanted the white vinyl represented here, and it's great to get a Vintage car for an example.

So far, the general trend is yes to vinyl.  But I appreciate the no ideas and other thoughts.
80.9% = yes; 10.3% = no; 8.8% = maybe.  That's still 4 to 1 on the yes side.

I do wonder if I'd started this under Originality, if that would have affected the vote.

What's your opinion?   Huh  Huh  Huh
1731  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 Air Conditioning -Sealing on: March 21, 2007, 03:01:10 PM
Ed,

So are the Norwood #2 and #3 cars you listed above, May and June build dates?  If that's true, that pulls the date of the clips up till May?

BTW, thanks for the clip hole pictures.  It helps to know what you're looking for.

By any chance could someone post a picture of the clip?
1732  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 Air Conditioning -Sealing on: March 21, 2007, 09:08:24 AM
Great info., Steve!

I'd say 6-19-68 could be the starting point of planning for pins.  Could have been implemented by your build date...
I also note that the TSB was issued a year after my car was made... 

John and Ed, if you see this, I'd love to know what you think.
1733  Site Comments / Discussion / Site Comments/Discussion / Re: Unable to open attached photos on: March 21, 2007, 08:51:16 AM
If you cannot open a pic, save it and open it from there.  As Click says, it might be your popup blocker.
Also, Ed taught me it is better post the pics. from a third-party host.  Look here:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1643.0
1734  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Vinyl or Not? on: March 20, 2007, 02:32:18 PM
Danny,

I'm sending you my work email address.  I'd love to have a white vinyl top picture included here.  I'll reduce it and post it.

Thanks!
1735  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 350 piston part number on: March 20, 2007, 02:28:17 PM
Dave,

Are you reffering to a p/n on the piston itself or the P&A p/n?

Paul is right: Colvin (pages 121, 125, 128) confirms all those pistons were flat head except the 69 350/350HP Corvette.

At any rate, the P&A 30A (rev. 8-72) list the pistons as follows:

67-70 All(350)(exc. Sp. H/Per.)     STD.     .001 O.S.     .020 O.S.     .030 O.S.
                                              3911020  3911021     3911022       3911023
70      All w/Sp. H/Per. (350)      3989048  3989049     3989050       3989051

I checked an Oct. 1, 1967 P&A 34 and it confirms 67 & 68 numbers.

Again, I'd run all this by Ed...
1736  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 Air Conditioning -Sealing on: March 20, 2007, 11:34:50 AM
Steve,

My car is a 12D.  It does not have the holes.

Note Ed's post above about the 68 (and 69) AIM.  That's what I have been going by.
1737  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Vinyl or Not? on: March 20, 2007, 09:54:22 AM
Danny,

Could you post a picture of your original white vinyl top?  What sort of shape is it in overall? How has it bee taken care of over the years?
1738  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 Air Conditioning -Sealing on: March 20, 2007, 09:04:49 AM
Steve and I are emailing back and forth.  Looks like he has an exception to what we had figured out before.
BTW, if anyone thought I was negatively questioning Steve from my post above, that was completely not my intention!  I'm actually excited about him being able to document an exception... That's one of the great things about CRG!  Grin
1739  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: rebuilding engine on: March 19, 2007, 02:08:24 PM
Dave,

I agree with Sam (which is the reason I didn't add anything above).  Knowing what you've said about your car (cruiser, et. al.), the 350/350 would be a good choice. One of these days, I'll replace my motor (which is not matching, and I know the original was lost in a scrape pile in Florida a long time ago).  But I'm waiting myself, because the 327/4 barrell I have is a great cruising setup for a powerglide car.

I also noticed on another one of your posts that you are starting to get answers to the issue of transmission and speedometer irregularities.  Let me (us) know how that all plays out.

Phillip
1740  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: rebuilding engine on: March 19, 2007, 09:04:50 AM
Dave,

Hate to hear about the bearing.  That's the "excuse" for getting other things done.  (Had to do that on another car.  Let me change what I wanted to change and bring back to original what I wanted original.) Keep us posted on your work.

Phillip
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