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16  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: My New '68 Camaro Z/28 Butternut Yellow on: August 08, 2014, 10:55:11 AM
Not the same thing, but years ago I had an erratic/idle vacuum issue with my 302 and spent a lot of time playing with the carburetor until I finally check out the engine's compression and spark plugs. What I really had was ring failure in one cylinder, and needed a rebuild. Might want to verify that your engine's compression is good? How do the plugs looks?
17  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: My New '68 Camaro Z/28 Butternut Yellow on: August 01, 2014, 03:06:53 PM
For reference, my 10B Oct 68 build 69 Z/28 has a carb dated 872. I believe that is 2nd week of July 1968. So carb is 11-12 weeks ahead of assembly.
18  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: July 31, 2014, 08:31:12 AM
Absolutely, GM determined when a particular car was to be built based on their schedules, and their part availablilities and Fisher built it.  There wasn't really much on the fisher side of the plant that could result in a material shortage that wouldn't alos affect the GM side.  Maybe things like convertible and vinyl tops in certain colors, some interior peices, etc.  Most of fishers parts were sheetmetal stampings that were not specific to a certain vehicle, like a 302 engine, or an M22 transmission. I'm sure there were some things on the Fisher side that could delay a build, but most of them was probably on GMs side.

So was Fisher sort of like a supplier to Chevrolet in that Fisher's production was to produce bodies for orders placed by Chevrolet?
19  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: July 29, 2014, 02:59:21 PM

So what which car would have made it out the door first? Does your earlier trim tag indicate your car just left the fisher plant before his, but once it was at GM, his got done first? What is the build week of his car vs. yours?

The 1969 body number was assigned when the plant accepted the order for production, not when the body was built, so there could be a relatively short time span or a much longer span, depending on material availability, sales priorities, etc. Once the Fisher body was received at the Chevrolet Body Bank and the VIN was assigned, it would be unusual for the body release to the Chevrolet assembly system to be delayed more than a few hours.


So was there planning coordination between Fisher and Chevrolet so that Fisher did not release orders to the system which might have material availability issues on the Chevrolet side? There must have been, or some type of central planning?
20  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: My New '68 Camaro Z/28 Butternut Yellow on: July 24, 2014, 08:59:26 AM
That really works to show off the numbers. I know I did something similar a while back with plaster of paris, and that worked well also.
21  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 Holley 3910 on: July 23, 2014, 02:01:50 PM
No expert, but wouldn't a re-issue have a 4 digit date code on the air horn?
22  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: June 25, 2014, 10:48:37 AM
Didn't know that; I'll have to look. I do know the grill was replaced when the car was re-painted, so, yes, emblem has been off the car. And even though it's now on the car, apparently it's still "off" Grin
23  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard on: June 25, 2014, 08:53:00 AM
For what it's worth, here's mine. Never been off car since I've had it, but car has been re-painted, so no guarantee it's in the original location.
24  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaros at AACA Grand Nationals Last Friday on: June 16, 2014, 08:24:47 AM
Couple more...

There were a few others there and at the Saturday national meet....


Wow! Closest color match to my Z I've seen. Only diff is RS. Well, mine also has black interior.
25  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z on: June 13, 2014, 03:30:48 PM
The Z/28 emblem would override the R/S emblem. Chevy wouldn't put two emblems on the car. What would they do on the rear body panel?
We CRGers know how it is supposed to be, but what about the guys building them back then. This may have been the first Z or, at least, Z/RS built in 69! Maybe there was some confusion or no clarity at the start of production and it got both emblems. Is that possible? Who knows if that is even the original grille. I am just throwing out an idea that perhaps early in production, some anomalies may have occured until assemblies were clarified by supervision. I could see how it could be possible to leave the plant with both emblems myself. Others have a thought? JohnZ? Ed?

Anything is possible, but two emblems on the grille would stick out like a sore thumb and probably wouldn't make it out of the plant. There were only two possible rear panel emblems - the Bowtie, and the Z/28, both of which had the same pre-pierced pin/hole pattern.

I thought there was also an RS rear panel emblem on rally sports that were neither SS or Z/28?
26  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z on: June 13, 2014, 03:21:19 PM
The only emblem on a R/S Z that wouldnt be "Z/28" would be "rally-sport" on the sides of the fenders.  Normally where the Camaro script would be.  Grille front edge of fenders and tail panel are "Z/28"

That's how mine is.
27  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z on: June 13, 2014, 09:39:49 AM
The Z/28 emblem would override the R/S emblem. Chevy wouldn't put two emblems on the car. What would they do on the rear body panel?

Oct 68 RS/Z rear emblem
28  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z on: June 09, 2014, 03:21:25 PM
Maybe the guy who bought it is the one who has that TV show. Can't think of the name of the show, but he's a character, and his wife's a well endowed blonde. One of those soap opera car shows where they wheel and deal cars, fix up, and supposedly make money.
29  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z on: June 09, 2014, 09:02:51 AM
So I looked at the auction, and noticed a couple of things different from my 69 RS/Z; Mine's a 10B (1968 build) car, so a month later than this one. No RS emblem on my grille, so maybe someone added that to this car? My steering wheel is also different. I have an RS emblem on my steering wheel. Mine has the wood grain insert as well. Should this one have the RS emblem on the steering wheel? I see the the bright pedal trim, so it's got the special interior group trim I believe.
30  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Heavy undercoating was it factory or dealer applied? on: June 05, 2014, 08:31:37 AM
Had a friend who had his 84 Camaro Zee Barted when new. Guaranteed not to rust. So when it started rusting under the hood, he took it to them and they "fixed" it. They wire brushed to rust off and sprayed more Zee Bart. What a joke!. Oh, and by the way, the Zee Bart job voided his factory rust warranty. So he got it from both ends. Are those Zee Bart guys still around?
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