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General Discussion / Re: Cars in action !
« on: March 05, 2014, 01:06:09 AM »
All that is left of the 2.56 .... 
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General Discussion / Re: Cars in action !
« on: March 05, 2014, 12:47:37 AM »
Mid 80's at Norwalk Raceway.... stone stock 327-275, orig 2.56 open rear, and a set of Lakewoods... 14.80's ?? was all I could tune out of the old guy...and believe me, that was humpin with the factory Glide ! I think I blew the rear either that day or very soon after....Spider gears and a badly tore up ring gear. I have a few teeth left as a souvenir.
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Restoration / Re: Floor drain plug direction - face up or down?
« on: January 09, 2014, 01:04:23 AM »
more...
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Restoration / Re: Floor drain plug direction - face up or down?
« on: January 09, 2014, 01:03:32 AM »
Here are my plugs and rear quarters, I'll have to dig up more shots come spring of my deck lid, rear body panel, outer wheel housings, doors, but they are all in the same ball park...28, 29, 30. All my numbers seam to be tight.
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Restoration / Re: Floor drain plug direction - face up or down?
« on: January 08, 2014, 12:57:12 AM »
The ones I have seen are usually stamped. Mine were, and the markings are consistent with my other sheet metal stampings, namely my rear quarters, deck lid and doors. Is this the norm? I've not researched it enough to give you a strong enough answer. I've parted many cars and have seen many dates. It's always best to restore what you have found. My experience, the codes/ dates are there. Most often, they are in such poor condition most would overlook them. They depths can vary. I'll post a pic when its not arctic in my garage.
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Restoration / Re: Floor drain plug direction - face up or down?
« on: January 07, 2014, 07:57:44 PM »
If you want to get technical, they should have a date stamp in the center of the raised portion as well.
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General Discussion / Re: GM Rochester Products keys verse GM Briggs & Stratton Keys
« on: January 06, 2014, 02:13:34 PM »
My 07E 68 has both RP and B&S (with knock outs) ..one of each. Wish I had all (4) keys to see if the other set was a match. I found the RP under the drivers seat, under the carpet wedged in the seat reinforcing area. Go figure. The Briggs fell out the body plug hole after pulling the orig carpet & parking in my friends driveway ...bet it was under the seat too. Lucky to have both!
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General Discussion / Re: '68 on the main page
« on: January 04, 2014, 11:37:19 PM »
same shot today....both seals still in place......
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General Discussion / Re: '68 on the main page
« on: January 04, 2014, 11:32:20 PM »
Heres a shot of the AC seal in 85, just after I added headers and cheap chrome ......
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General Discussion / Re: '68 on the main page
« on: January 04, 2014, 11:22:26 PM »
Thank you gentleman, your comments mean the world to me.
I spent a lot of time researching what I had need to do to make it as correct as possible. Research and documentation is essential. I was blessed to have started with a correct car that was mostly untouched. The guy before me tried to do some body work and had hung half quarters on it, but never finished it. The first owner had used roofing tar on the floors and wheel housings when it was bought for his wife. That saved the bottom side. I bought the car in 85 and it's been (as pictured) for about 10 years now. All of the panels are GM. The floors, trunk floor, hood, cowl, doors and deck lid are the born with pieces. The rockers are 80 % born with and 20% NOS (hated to cut them up). The front fenders, lower valance, header, fender ext., wheel housings, rear outer wheel housings, rear quarters and drop offs are all NOS. I was very fortunate to find a woman up in Bay City MI that had all the NOS metal. I didn't even need to splice in my orig date codes in the quarters, they were that close. This was all old old GM stuff, all had stickers and bin numbers and even crayon part numbers. The metal fit extremely well, and we worked to make the gaps perfect. The body and paint work was done by Flatline Custom, and I worked with them daily to mirror what GM did. My goal was to not "over restore" but to finish with a product that looked to be new and almost a survivor, if that makes sense. My plan was to then take it to "Day Two" 1968. I have all the correct numbers items restored for this car. The Speedway wide treds on the steel wheels are dated to the car. I love the power of the stock L-30, but in "Day two" trim it's a different animal.
The brick building in the back round is an old junk yard, B&O Salvage. I wanted an old setting for a photo shoot, and I felt the Old barn was perfect.
Here's a bit of a overview on the history of my car. I had this posted over on the sYc site, because of the CRG home page. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/549028/Steve_%22Big%22_'s_68_Ca#Post549028
I’ve owned this car since 1985, and paid a whopping $350 for it. I was headed out to buy another car, a 65 390 Galaxie convert when my neighbor (Jim) mentioned he was picking up a Camaro the next day. Jim owned a Sohio station. His local sales rep wanted him to tow this Camaro out of his garage. It had to be moved ASAP. Come to find out, the sales rep’s son Paul actually owned the car and was given an ultimatum upon returning from BGSU…..either he goes or the car goes. Two days later it was towed to my garage. Many years later, Jim mentioned (with a devilish grin) that this was “A Hostile Takeover”!
Purely by coincidence, Paul found me and the Camaro 20+ years later at a local show. It was a night neither of us would ever forget. He was walking around my car telling his son that he had a Camaro just like this. He went on and on looking and staring in disbelief. Finally, I asked him if his name was Paul. To this day, I’ve never seen the color run out of some ones face so quick. He about passed out…After a bit, he phoned his wife and the whole family came up to see his Camaro. His first date with his wife was in that car, she threw up in that car that night and he told me stories of running it flat out on the interstate back and forth to Bowling Green. I’m still trying to get him back behind the wheel. He deserves to drive it again!
Rewind to 1968…… Alice Wallace just married Francis Rodgers. Francis was into Corvettes and took Alice down to Roger Dean Chevrolet to trade in her 1961 Chevy and order a new Camaro. All the paperwork form the title application to the lien papers had Wallace scratched out and Rodgers added. Newlyweds. The Camaro was shipped to Dean on July 31 (per NICB) and Alice picked up her car on Aug 9 …. Alice enjoyed her car until the untimely passing of her husband Francis in Oct of 77. She in turn passed the car on to a family member ( Lynn) who drove it until his death, then passed it on to his sister( Maryann). Maryann used the car during her days at Bowling Green, and then sold it to Paul in 81. The car was now covered in BGSU stickers and a National Miniature Schnauzer decal on the quarter window.
I had done my research with the state of West Virginia and even spoke with Alice on the phone. She didn’t remember much about the car until I mentioned the Schnauzer decal. She then perked up…… ”That must be my car, I breed Schnauzers”. She then went on to tell me about her late husband and his passion for Corvettes. Roger Dean was a sales leader in Corvettes so it was the logical dealer to order from.
The Camaro…
What Francis ordered was a 1968 Camaro Ash Gold Coupe with a L-30 327, M-35 Powerglide transmission,2.56 rear (should not have been available), center console, Clock, A/C, Deluxe interior , black vinyl top, AM 8-track, tilt wheel, rear defog, Vigilite, space saver, bumper guards, and a rear antenna….LOADED.
Currently it is(and will always be)in “DAY 2” trim. Some items added are: American mags, Lakewood bars, Harrell clamps, headers, SW gauges, GM intake & Z-28 valve covers, 462 heads, blueprinted 10.5 to 1 block, TH-350, 4000 stall converter, 4:10 rear, GM rear spoiler and a A&A front spoiler.
Steve
I spent a lot of time researching what I had need to do to make it as correct as possible. Research and documentation is essential. I was blessed to have started with a correct car that was mostly untouched. The guy before me tried to do some body work and had hung half quarters on it, but never finished it. The first owner had used roofing tar on the floors and wheel housings when it was bought for his wife. That saved the bottom side. I bought the car in 85 and it's been (as pictured) for about 10 years now. All of the panels are GM. The floors, trunk floor, hood, cowl, doors and deck lid are the born with pieces. The rockers are 80 % born with and 20% NOS (hated to cut them up). The front fenders, lower valance, header, fender ext., wheel housings, rear outer wheel housings, rear quarters and drop offs are all NOS. I was very fortunate to find a woman up in Bay City MI that had all the NOS metal. I didn't even need to splice in my orig date codes in the quarters, they were that close. This was all old old GM stuff, all had stickers and bin numbers and even crayon part numbers. The metal fit extremely well, and we worked to make the gaps perfect. The body and paint work was done by Flatline Custom, and I worked with them daily to mirror what GM did. My goal was to not "over restore" but to finish with a product that looked to be new and almost a survivor, if that makes sense. My plan was to then take it to "Day Two" 1968. I have all the correct numbers items restored for this car. The Speedway wide treds on the steel wheels are dated to the car. I love the power of the stock L-30, but in "Day two" trim it's a different animal.
The brick building in the back round is an old junk yard, B&O Salvage. I wanted an old setting for a photo shoot, and I felt the Old barn was perfect.
Here's a bit of a overview on the history of my car. I had this posted over on the sYc site, because of the CRG home page. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/549028/Steve_%22Big%22_'s_68_Ca#Post549028
I’ve owned this car since 1985, and paid a whopping $350 for it. I was headed out to buy another car, a 65 390 Galaxie convert when my neighbor (Jim) mentioned he was picking up a Camaro the next day. Jim owned a Sohio station. His local sales rep wanted him to tow this Camaro out of his garage. It had to be moved ASAP. Come to find out, the sales rep’s son Paul actually owned the car and was given an ultimatum upon returning from BGSU…..either he goes or the car goes. Two days later it was towed to my garage. Many years later, Jim mentioned (with a devilish grin) that this was “A Hostile Takeover”!
Purely by coincidence, Paul found me and the Camaro 20+ years later at a local show. It was a night neither of us would ever forget. He was walking around my car telling his son that he had a Camaro just like this. He went on and on looking and staring in disbelief. Finally, I asked him if his name was Paul. To this day, I’ve never seen the color run out of some ones face so quick. He about passed out…After a bit, he phoned his wife and the whole family came up to see his Camaro. His first date with his wife was in that car, she threw up in that car that night and he told me stories of running it flat out on the interstate back and forth to Bowling Green. I’m still trying to get him back behind the wheel. He deserves to drive it again!
Rewind to 1968…… Alice Wallace just married Francis Rodgers. Francis was into Corvettes and took Alice down to Roger Dean Chevrolet to trade in her 1961 Chevy and order a new Camaro. All the paperwork form the title application to the lien papers had Wallace scratched out and Rodgers added. Newlyweds. The Camaro was shipped to Dean on July 31 (per NICB) and Alice picked up her car on Aug 9 …. Alice enjoyed her car until the untimely passing of her husband Francis in Oct of 77. She in turn passed the car on to a family member ( Lynn) who drove it until his death, then passed it on to his sister( Maryann). Maryann used the car during her days at Bowling Green, and then sold it to Paul in 81. The car was now covered in BGSU stickers and a National Miniature Schnauzer decal on the quarter window.
I had done my research with the state of West Virginia and even spoke with Alice on the phone. She didn’t remember much about the car until I mentioned the Schnauzer decal. She then perked up…… ”That must be my car, I breed Schnauzers”. She then went on to tell me about her late husband and his passion for Corvettes. Roger Dean was a sales leader in Corvettes so it was the logical dealer to order from.
The Camaro…
What Francis ordered was a 1968 Camaro Ash Gold Coupe with a L-30 327, M-35 Powerglide transmission,2.56 rear (should not have been available), center console, Clock, A/C, Deluxe interior , black vinyl top, AM 8-track, tilt wheel, rear defog, Vigilite, space saver, bumper guards, and a rear antenna….LOADED.
Currently it is(and will always be)in “DAY 2” trim. Some items added are: American mags, Lakewood bars, Harrell clamps, headers, SW gauges, GM intake & Z-28 valve covers, 462 heads, blueprinted 10.5 to 1 block, TH-350, 4000 stall converter, 4:10 rear, GM rear spoiler and a A&A front spoiler.
Steve
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General Discussion / Re: '68 on the main page
« on: December 28, 2013, 07:00:54 PM »
Here is a shot of one of the AC baffles prior to restoration...I thought I had a better pic.
Steve
Steve
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General Discussion / Re: '68 on the main page
« on: December 07, 2013, 11:52:23 PM »
I was part of that discussion way back when...lol It's 100% the real deal. I have more pics of the baffles and how I restored them. This car is a 07E, one of the last.
Love the shot of the std Ivy interior! My dash and door panels are all unrestored and 100% orig.
Steve
Love the shot of the std Ivy interior! My dash and door panels are all unrestored and 100% orig.
Steve
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General Discussion / Re: '68 on the main page
« on: December 07, 2013, 03:35:19 AM »
and again...
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General Discussion / Re: '68 on the main page
« on: December 07, 2013, 03:34:45 AM »
different....