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1426  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro History on: December 24, 2006, 04:05:05 PM
Lets not forget Dave Strickler's "Old Reliable" NHRA Super Stock Z28 that won the 1968 NHRA World Championship title.  This Z28 dominated the ranks of Super Stock during the '68 season.  At last count, there were at least 40 major magazine articles written about this car during 1968 and 1969, and was the most famous Z28 of the late 1960's.

Of equal mention are Ben & Dave Wenzel and Bill Jenkins.  Both of these veterans debuted their brand new 1967 Camaros (a 1967 Z28 and L78) at the NHRA Indy US Nationals in 1967, crushed the competition, and won the both eliminators in Stock and Super Stock.  And this is the best part, Ben & Dave Wenzel are still racing their 1967 Z28 in Stock eliminator today.  Great guys!

Ed Hedrick, who was part of the Bill "Grumpy" Jenkins race team, put the 1969 Yenko 427 Camaro on the map in the NHRA national event winner's circle.  Ed was the only racer to win an NHRA national event when these Yenko cars were brand new.  This car and driver got plenty of ink!

Merry Christmas,

1427  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Best source for resto parts on: December 23, 2006, 05:13:57 PM
We've been using Ricks for years.  Never a problem, and if there is one, they will do what ever it takes to make you happy.  Unfortunately, it seems like the quality is going down hill with the 69 Camaro standard interior covers. 

1428  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 68 z28 conv. on: December 21, 2006, 09:25:25 PM
I think Al still owns the car. 

1429  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1967-1969 Camaro Original Trunklid Value? on: December 21, 2006, 09:23:09 PM
There were three different deck lids used in 1967, another updated version used for 1968 and three for 1969 models (the 68 deck lid carries over to early 1969 models).  Find out which one you have and that will help you sell it.  I have seen nice ones sell in the $300 price range......and much less too.  Have bought them at swap meets in the summer of 2006 for as low as $20.00.

1430  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: DZ Block ? on: December 16, 2006, 09:25:53 PM

Can you e-mail a photo of the vin stamping when you have a chance.


1431  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 68 z28 conv. on: December 16, 2006, 09:24:19 PM
I think Al Mainerd still owns it.  He was trying to sell it about a year ago.

1432  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 68 M0 Z28 on: December 08, 2006, 09:28:36 PM
This is something we are working on.  Five years ago, a car was not allowed into the Legend Certification unless it had the oem drive train.  If we do let cars in, they will take a hit on the replacement engine as it wouldn't be fair to people who have cars with an original engine.  This is why the oem cars have a high value.  Camaros that survived the past 38 years or so with the oem drive train deserve to have a higher value. 

There still should be a place for cars with restoration blocks.  I don't think CE's will ever have a place in the concours arena unless there is dealer paperwork.  It's getting hard to find anything today, but the cars are still out there.  I just looked at a Z28 two weeks ago that was in storage for over 30 years sitting in a barn in Gettysburg, PA.

1433  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 68 M0 Z28 on: December 08, 2006, 07:31:58 PM
I would also check with Larry Eakin who runs the 1968 Z28 registry.  I think he's at

1434  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1968 L78 375hp 396 MQ coded CAMARO motor forsale on Ebay on: December 08, 2006, 07:28:03 PM
I would also suggest scraping the pad with a razor blade to make it clean.  Many buyers would like to see the broach marks on the pad, and inspect the numbers.  Doing this might make the difference in selling the engine.  When we inspect cars and do appraisals, the first thing we look for is a nice clean engine pad.

Good luck,

1435  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Looking for Classic Car Transportation Company Recommendations on: December 04, 2006, 07:58:40 AM

Year Round Transportation is very good and they have a good reputation.  Many of my customers have used these people.  It's a Mom & Pop family owned business.  Many of the bigger companies are very unreliable.  Happened many times here.  Said they would be here and never showed up.  Here is their number, 800-784-7951.  I'll call you today about an insepction.

Good luck,


1436  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Correct Date Code Carb or New? on: December 04, 2006, 07:49:09 AM
You're good to go.

1437  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Correct Date Code Carb or New? on: December 03, 2006, 08:32:49 PM


You are right regarding what carb dates work for the vehicle.  Carbs were installed at the assembly plant so the build date of the car is what is paramount.  I might add when buying an original carb, make sure it has the correct original base plate and metering blocks.  Over the years, many original dated carbs seem to have the thicker replacement base and changed metering blocks.  Very easy to tell.  In the driver's side rear corner area, the plate is a lot thicker.  Originals have very thin webbing in that area.  Most of the common Chevrolet Holleys use a 5583 front block and 4519 rear.  And by all means, go for the original carb, your car will have more value in the long run.  The new Holleys have the replacement base plate and hex head float bowl screws making them quite a bit different than the originals.


1438  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: How much effect does CE engine code have on value? on: December 03, 2006, 08:15:57 PM
Speaking as a licensed certified appraiser and Camaro master judge, a CE block is better than a restoration block (dated restamped correct block w/ original numbers) only if you have paperwork from the dealer showing the engine change.  Any first-gen high performance Camaro with an incorrect engine takes about a 33% deduct in value verses a car with its original engine.  For many enthusiasts, having a replacement engine is not a big deal, for is.  In today's market, the average person cannot afford a pedigree 1969 Z28.  If you want to have your car judged in the concours "Legend" class at the Camaro Nationals, it's about a 200 point hit for not having the original engine.


1439  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: PTB stamps on: December 03, 2006, 07:48:43 PM
According to a Norwood quality control I interviewed back in the late 1980's, PTB stamps designated paint body and trim inspection before the front fenders were installed on the car.  Most of the '68 and '69 cars have the stamps in sight but many of the 67 cars (not all) have the stamps behind the front fenders.  It was about 1987 when many Norwood plant workers transferred to the Baltimore plant due to the closing of Norwood.  Talked with quite a few of the Norwood workers during that time.

1440  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Ben & Lana Wenzel in Automobile Accident on: November 29, 2005, 08:02:06 AM
Just wanted to let everyone know that Ben's wife, Lana came home from the hospital Monday evening.  The recovery and therapy will be long but the family is confidant that she will have a full recovery.

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