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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / 1967 Z28 tires Now Available on: July 15, 2014, 12:26:21 PM
Attention all 1967 Z28 owners.  After 10 years of working with John Kelsey on the 7.35 x 15" redlines for the '67 Z28, the tires are now available through Kelsey Tire.  I received the first redline Goodyear Power Cushion sample today.  We have been working on the details of this project since last year.  Very exciting news for the hobby. 

The tires are awesome and right on the money.  Call 800-325-0091 for yours today!

Jerry

 
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: June 08, 2014, 08:08:59 PM
Roy, enjoy working with you at Barrett Jackson and I know you have a lot on your plate.  I hope that everything for you continues to move in a positive direction.  We'll always have plenty to do at BJ.  See you in Reno.

Jerry
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: January 30, 2014, 07:12:45 PM
I will have to check on costs.  I have an appointment with my printer as I'm going to be working on a new 5th edition of the '69 Camaro book so I will check on cost, quantity and approx. page count for a judging manual.

Stay tuned,

Jerry 
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: trim ring fit to rim on: January 30, 2014, 02:30:37 PM
I know after three pages of posting here that this issue does need to be addressed.  What data I can add to the table is any original car that I've inspected over the past 20 years or so have had the four clips on the trim rings.  I think was has happened is when GM began making the service replacements, these were "finger style" trim rings and many owners of cars have just assumed these later style rings were original and or acceptable.  I have even stated that both are acceptable in my Camaro fact book due to the data I had at the time.  Many originals may have been replaced due to curb scrapes and such.

So, all that said, we will address this issue this year and work on getting that concours judging manual done.  That will aid everyone who comes into the hobby.

Jerry
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Little Pissed of the Coverage on Barrett Jackson on: January 23, 2014, 11:37:11 PM
Yep, can't say the same for other auctions.  Have a hot mess law suit getting ready to blast off shortly.  Stay tuned.  Fake black Z28, hidden vin numbers ground out, incorrect trim tag, restamped drive train and more.  All the best!

Jerry
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Little Pissed of the Coverage on Barrett Jackson on: January 23, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
The BJ coverage will get better.  Due to the fact that Speed went away, the Fox Business and FS1 were the best they had to offer for 2014.  I found out after talking to personnel at BJ that the coverage exploded the ratings so next year will be better and more consistent.  Trouble with most of the Mecum cars is "The Bid Goes On."  70% of the cars do not sell. 

What I have positive to say about BJ now is they are trying to clean up all of the fakes that come to auction.  They have hired automotive specialists to do inspections before the cars go across the block, and that's a good thing.

Jerry 
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: L78/L89 Intake Manifold Gasket on: November 09, 2013, 12:38:25 PM
Paragon Reproductions makes a perfect replacement, GM part #3955527.   This is what we use for the engines we rebuild here at CHP/

Jerry
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original tires on: November 09, 2013, 11:08:00 AM
Bill, the only thing I would add to this is since 2009, I have now documented three cars with what, in my professional opinion are original spare tires to the car.  All three were March wheels and April dated Polyglas tires.  The original owner guy has stated to me many times that the spare is original to the car.  He has the car shipper with no mention of PL4, PL5, etc.  The first car that I saw with a Polyglas spare was a few years ago and he had no paperwork.  I have no reason to believe that is was not original to the car.  What I sense here is a trend that Polyglas tires did make their way on to the 1969 Camaro.  That's all.  I'm not saying that thousands got them or 10 cars got them..........only that I have found, what I call three credible cars with original spare tires.  John Kelsey can go into more detail about this.  He's been in the tire business for most of his life and I regard him as an accurate source for the hobby.  I have no connection to Kelsey tire.  I'm only trying to post research data as I find it and answer the original question that was posted on this thread.  That's it. 

As we know this Camaro hobby can be a humbling experience as we are always learning more as time goes by.  Case in point, the two survivor Z28s with mis-matching cylinder heads that I inspected two years ago.  If you would have told me that Flint engine built a 302 with one #186 head and one #041, I would have stated I don't think that is possible.  But now that two survivor original cars have been found with mis-matching heads, it appears that Flint engine did do this and probably not by choice at the time. 

Jerry           
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original tires on: November 06, 2013, 12:14:52 PM
Tire date code, April 1969.  I know that many PC's were equipped with Firestones but Coker has not made a correct tire yet for '69 Camaro production.  I have an original Firestone tire photo posted in my '69 Camaro book.  The RWL's on the repro Firestones are not correct and too big.  Originals were much smaller in size.

Jerry
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original tires on: November 06, 2013, 12:11:21 PM
Here is one from an 05A pace car with car shipper.  No mention of PL4 on the shipper.  Original owner car.  I will ask owner to post copy of shipper.  Rally wheel dated K19-3-22,   
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original tires on: November 04, 2013, 03:12:24 PM
Bill, since the first SS car that turned up with an original spare, two others for me have surfaced in my travels that have the original window sticker and original dated Polyglas spare and wheel in the trunk.  No mention of the RPO code on the window sticker.  It appears that J. Kelsey and Norwood plant workers were correct about installing what they had to get the car out the door.  A best friend's Chevelle who bought it new got the Polyglas and car was not ordered with them either..........the saga continues.

Jerry   
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original tires on: November 03, 2013, 07:23:44 PM
For years now this has been a very controversial question. Many have believed that only the F70 x 14" Wide Treads were available for the 1969 Camaro SS. I remembered seeing the Polyglas tires on brand new 1969 Chevelles when my Dad and I were out car shopping for me. But in today’s Camaro hobby, hearsay does not get it. Over the past three years I have broken the code on this issue.  I have had the pleasure of inspecting several original SS Camaros with build dates starting in April 1969 and later.  In April, GM revised it’s option list for the 1969 Camaro adding “Belted RWL Tires” to their option list. One very nice Z10 L35 that I certified still had the original spare in the trunk of the car on the original dated wheel. I recorded the serial number and code and sent it to John Kelsey of Kelsey Tire who makes the Goodyear reproduction tires. John got back stating that the tire was manufactured in April of 1969 at the Gadston, AL plant. The build date of this car was April 1969. Since that Z10 car there have been others adding to this data. So, for anyone stating that a 1969 Camaro cannot have Polyglas tires is false.  If you have a 1969 Camaro SS built from April 1969 through November 1969, The Polyglas “no size” RWL tires are correct and accepted in concours judging.  John Kelsey and others also added that tire shortages during 1969 Camaro production could have got you the Polyglas tires even if the car was not ordered with the belted tire RPO code.  Plant workers that I interviewed many years ago also stated this too.  We accept the Polyglas RWL tires in “Legend” concours judging at the Camaro Nationals as long as the car was built in April of 1969 or later.
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: bell housing on: August 26, 2013, 08:56:41 AM
And lastly,

Jerry
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: bell housing on: August 26, 2013, 08:56:07 AM
More pix, different car
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: bell housing on: August 26, 2013, 08:55:35 AM
I'll post these again here.  Taken in the Legend Survivor class at the Camaro Nats this past June.  Two untouched cars.  The paint adhesion problem is clear in these photos but it appears that the whole housing was painted when these cars were assembled.

Jerry
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