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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Interesting 1969 Z28
« on: January 30, 2021, 05:51:30 PM »
Most real black Z28s go for big bucks with original drive trains.  A known survivor I certified went for $175+ a couple of years ago.  I've seen a bidder spend $100k for a Z28 at BJ when it was announced that the car had a non OEM trim tag!!!  Black sells.  People do crazy things for black cars even if it wasn't a real black car.  Personally I hate black, always did.   

It's troubling that the makers of these tags are getting better and better at it.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Interesting 1969 Z28
« on: January 30, 2021, 01:17:43 AM »
I finally had time to do the analysis on Burton's '69 Z28 and told him to post my analysis report here on this thread.  The trim tag is one of the newer reproductions and yes they are getting better at making these non-OEM tags.  Older repros are very easy to spot, this one a little harder.  Have seen many repro tags over the past 9 years  working at Barrett Jackson.  However, the complete drive train to this car is real and authentic to this vehicle.  This is the original drive train that was installed in this car when it was built.  I have dozens of the 407 date along with Muncie stampings.  All characters are spot on.  It's a very honest car except for the trim tag.  And where Burton has the car priced at $75k, that's not a bad deal. 


Originality / Re: Water pump gaskets 69z
« on: January 11, 2021, 03:48:49 AM »
Two hole gaskets were factory installed so cutting off the extended gasket hole is the correct way to go.


Research Topics & Reports / Re: 1968 Ash Trays (again!)
« on: December 10, 2020, 02:08:21 PM »
Update:  Looking for early survivor '68 Camaros with D55, Z23 or Z87.  Trying to break the code on painted ash trays.


Restoration / Re: Cowl induction air cleaner base tube
« on: March 30, 2020, 08:49:46 PM »
Only thing you can do is find an original open element base and rob the arrester tube off of that.  It's basically the same and can be tack welded in place.  Length may be slightly different. 


Maintenance / Re: 4053 Carb adjustments
« on: March 21, 2020, 02:02:55 AM »
Those are the bleeder screws and they are set by Holley when the carbs are built.  You should never have to go in there.  I don't have to fool with these on my Stock Eliminator '67 Z28 race car either.  If someone monkeyed with them, they may have to set and recalibrated.  Have you checked everything else out on the carb?  Warpage, correct jetting, dirt in the carb, etc. 


General Discussion / Re: 1967 Z for sale ?
« on: December 12, 2019, 03:44:58 PM »
A potential buyer just contacted me about this car this morning.  I have almost 230 cars in the registry now, this car is not in the registry. Not the best photo of the trim tag but I will say that it does have issues.  The L's are also not correct. 


Originality / Re: 1967 Z-28 302
« on: January 12, 2018, 03:46:52 PM »
1967 Z28 engines never received the finned balancer.  My company, CHP has rebuild dozens of original '67 302 engines, judged at the Camaro Nationals many restored and original '67 Z28's and never has one turned up on an original engine. They were used in 1966 and have been seen on the '66 L79 engines. 

Have been running the national registry on these cars now for 30 years.  Yep, since 1988 and all of my data shows it was never used.  I hope this helps.


Just taking a minute to chime in here.  All inspections are done on-site and yes, I do generate a four to five page report on every car that I inspect in person.  Many dealers are guilty of using just the cert to sell a car.  I don't like it and will figure out a way to change the current way I write the cert (adding maybe report enclosed?).  I have a client who bought a real '68 Z28 with my cert but without the full report because the seller didn't want him to know that the drive train was re-stamped.

Most have wised up though as I get many, many calls where people will ask about the full report.  All cars that I do are logged into my data base.

Reports take anywhere from 3-5 hours to generate.  Been working on one today, an L78 70 Camaro with re-stamped DT.  More work for me in reports like this as I have to provide data analysis. 


General Discussion / Re: JM Certified Dusk Blue 1969 Z28
« on: June 30, 2015, 11:58:59 PM »
The underside is as nice as the interior and exterior.

General Discussion / Re: JM Certified Dusk Blue 1969 Z28
« on: June 30, 2015, 10:07:19 PM »
A well documented 26,000 original mile car.  All of the hard to find parts, alt, dist, carb, radiator, wheels, etc. have never left the vehicle.  Very hard to find in today's market.

General Discussion / Re: JM Certified Dusk Blue 1969 Z28
« on: June 29, 2015, 05:09:27 PM »
This is a very nice car.  It has qualified for "Legends Certification."  Z28's like this don't come around that often.  I did a lot of tuning on the car while at my shop.  It had not been driven for many years.  This car runs and drives like a brand new Z28.  Even though I'm not a '69 Z guy, I would not mind having this one in my garage!  I too am a big fan of Dusk blue.   

Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1111480 distributor
« on: June 08, 2015, 02:32:22 AM »
9H12 is the latest date I have for the 480.  My research from customer's distributors that we've restored show that the 9H12 and 9E13 and 9E16 were used late in the year.  Oct of '69 on the 9H12.  We've also had customers who have sent in 1112003's in very late cars who claim they're original.  All distributors were produced in large batches.  Two dates known for the 003, 9G11 and 9G18.

There are no GM docs or memos stating that the 003 would replace the 480.  That is what I stated in the latest edition of my book.  GM generated a memo about usage on the 1111266 being used on the early production '68 Z28's.  Why would they not follow suit with the 003?  We've restored thousands over the years and this is the latest data that I have.


General Discussion / Re: 1967 Z/28 at 1967 Indy Winter Nationals.
« on: February 01, 2015, 02:19:16 PM »
Here's Ben and I at the Bristol race in 2010.  We shot some photos for Charlie Lingenfelter at the track.

General Discussion / Re: 1967 Z/28 at 1967 Indy Winter Nationals.
« on: February 01, 2015, 02:16:25 PM »
Hoosiers, 9 x 30's.  That's all we;re allowed in Stock Eliminator.  Here's my new race car back in the day at 75-80 Drayway.  About 1972-73.

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