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General Discussion / Re: Camaro History
« on: December 26, 2006, 03:33:58 AM »
Gary,

The average factory built 302 ranges in the 340-360hp range.  With some carb work, stagger jetting and distributor work, you can pick it up another 20-30hp.  Blue printing brings these 302's to life.  Over 400 without any problem.  One of our customers has what I call a day two 69 Z28........headers, no smog.  Built the way it would have been in the late 1960's.  We did the engine, blue printed it, converted M21 to a M20 wide ratio 2.52 trans and 4.10 rear w/street tires.  Car runs in the mid 13's granny shifting about 7000 rpm.  Car would run in the high 12's with a good driver in good air.  We had a great grudge match this summer at Capitol Raceway with the Maryland Camaro club.  One of our members has a 454 in his 69 Camaro.  He kept asking the guy with the day two Z28 for a match up at the starting line.  Guess what, the Z ran a 13.55 and the 454 Camaro ran a 13.90.  It was all in good fun and we had a blast with this grudge race at the Xmas club dinner last week.

Happy New Year to all,

Jerry     

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Restoration / Re: Best source for resto parts
« on: December 24, 2006, 09:18:48 PM »
Unfortunately, all of the standard interior reproduction door panels are too "puffy" and don't look right.  NG!  Originals were much flatter in appearance.  Many of the Camaro owners who bring a car to the Camaro Nationals for the "Legend" concours class try to find good condition original interior parts.  This will improve your score over any reproduction interior. 

The deluxe interior door panels are good and made by Al Knock. 

Jerry 

1443
General Discussion / Re: Camaro History
« on: December 24, 2006, 09:05:05 PM »
Lets not forget Dave Strickler's "Old Reliable" NHRA Super Stock Z28 that won the 1968 NHRA World Championship title.  This Z28 dominated the ranks of Super Stock during the '68 season.  At last count, there were at least 40 major magazine articles written about this car during 1968 and 1969, and was the most famous Z28 of the late 1960's.

Of equal mention are Ben & Dave Wenzel and Bill Jenkins.  Both of these veterans debuted their brand new 1967 Camaros (a 1967 Z28 and L78) at the NHRA Indy US Nationals in 1967, crushed the competition, and won the both eliminators in Stock and Super Stock.  And this is the best part, Ben & Dave Wenzel are still racing their 1967 Z28 in Stock eliminator today.  Great guys!

Ed Hedrick, who was part of the Bill "Grumpy" Jenkins race team, put the 1969 Yenko 427 Camaro on the map in the NHRA national event winner's circle.  Ed was the only racer to win an NHRA national event when these Yenko cars were brand new.  This car and driver got plenty of ink!

Merry Christmas,

Jerry@CHP   

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Restoration / Re: Best source for resto parts
« on: December 23, 2006, 10:13:57 PM »
We've been using Ricks for years.  Never a problem, and if there is one, they will do what ever it takes to make you happy.  Unfortunately, it seems like the quality is going down hill with the 69 Camaro standard interior covers. 

Jerry   

1445
General Discussion / Re: 68 z28 conv.
« on: December 22, 2006, 02:25:25 AM »
I think Al still owns the car. 

Jerry

1446
General Discussion / Re: 1967-1969 Camaro Original Trunklid Value?
« on: December 22, 2006, 02:23:09 AM »
There were three different deck lids used in 1967, another updated version used for 1968 and three for 1969 models (the 68 deck lid carries over to early 1969 models).  Find out which one you have and that will help you sell it.  I have seen nice ones sell in the $300 price range......and much less too.  Have bought them at swap meets in the summer of 2006 for as low as $20.00.

Jerry 

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: DZ Block ?
« on: December 17, 2006, 02:25:53 AM »
Billy,

Can you e-mail a photo of the vin stamping when you have a chance.

Thanks,

Jerry

z28camaroman@juno.com

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General Discussion / Re: 68 z28 conv.
« on: December 17, 2006, 02:24:19 AM »
I think Al Mainerd still owns it.  He was trying to sell it about a year ago.

Jerry

1449
Decoding/Numbers / Re: 68 M0 Z28
« on: December 09, 2006, 02:28:36 AM »
This is something we are working on.  Five years ago, a car was not allowed into the Legend Certification unless it had the oem drive train.  If we do let cars in, they will take a hit on the replacement engine as it wouldn't be fair to people who have cars with an original engine.  This is why the oem cars have a high value.  Camaros that survived the past 38 years or so with the oem drive train deserve to have a higher value. 

There still should be a place for cars with restoration blocks.  I don't think CE's will ever have a place in the concours arena unless there is dealer paperwork.  It's getting hard to find anything today, but the cars are still out there.  I just looked at a Z28 two weeks ago that was in storage for over 30 years sitting in a barn in Gettysburg, PA.

Jerry

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 68 M0 Z28
« on: December 09, 2006, 12:31:58 AM »
I would also check with Larry Eakin who runs the 1968 Z28 registry.  I think he's at www.1968z28.com.

Jerry@CHP

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I would also suggest scraping the pad with a razor blade to make it clean.  Many buyers would like to see the broach marks on the pad, and inspect the numbers.  Doing this might make the difference in selling the engine.  When we inspect cars and do appraisals, the first thing we look for is a nice clean engine pad.

Good luck,

Jerry@CHP

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John,

Year Round Transportation is very good and they have a good reputation.  Many of my customers have used these people.  It's a Mom & Pop family owned business.  Many of the bigger companies are very unreliable.  Happened many times here.  Said they would be here and never showed up.  Here is their number, 800-784-7951.  I'll call you today about an insepction.

Good luck,

Jerry


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General Discussion / Re: Correct Date Code Carb or New?
« on: December 04, 2006, 12:49:09 PM »
You're good to go.

Jerry

1454
General Discussion / Re: Correct Date Code Carb or New?
« on: December 04, 2006, 01:32:49 AM »

Bertfam,

You are right regarding what carb dates work for the vehicle.  Carbs were installed at the assembly plant so the build date of the car is what is paramount.  I might add when buying an original carb, make sure it has the correct original base plate and metering blocks.  Over the years, many original dated carbs seem to have the thicker replacement base and changed metering blocks.  Very easy to tell.  In the driver's side rear corner area, the plate is a lot thicker.  Originals have very thin webbing in that area.  Most of the common Chevrolet Holleys use a 5583 front block and 4519 rear.  And by all means, go for the original carb, your car will have more value in the long run.  The new Holleys have the replacement base plate and hex head float bowl screws making them quite a bit different than the originals.

Jerry@CHP       


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General Discussion / Re: How much effect does CE engine code have on value?
« on: December 04, 2006, 01:15:57 AM »
Speaking as a licensed certified appraiser and Camaro master judge, a CE block is better than a restoration block (dated restamped correct block w/ original numbers) only if you have paperwork from the dealer showing the engine change.  Any first-gen high performance Camaro with an incorrect engine takes about a 33% deduct in value verses a car with its original engine.  For many enthusiasts, having a replacement engine is not a big deal, for others.....it is.  In today's market, the average person cannot afford a pedigree 1969 Z28.  If you want to have your car judged in the concours "Legend" class at the Camaro Nationals, it's about a 200 point hit for not having the original engine.

Jerry@CHP     


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