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676  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Battery Side post or top question on: April 22, 2013, 05:16:31 PM
Anybody have a recommendation on who to buy the side mount battery cables from? Ricks are $38.00 and $41.00 set, NPD's are $45.00 set and HBC's are $50.00 set. I wonder if they are all made by the same company. Are batteries still bought using the R number today or is there a different number?
677  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front license plate bracket question. on: April 22, 2013, 05:08:35 PM
Jerry.


I've seen those more often then the others in post #20 when I was stripping 66 to 72 GM cars for a friend of mine at his body shop.
678  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 69 Z being restored on: April 22, 2013, 05:04:45 PM
My first glance I thought it was the orchid color from the pic that Jerry posted along with the yellow and red that is there. Same with the door panel pic, looks like orchid to me. That's a color hard to forget. I was trying to convince myself that is was silver but I don't think so anymore.
679  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front license plate bracket question. on: April 22, 2013, 01:28:58 PM
Great information. I wasn't old enough yet to buy my first new car and wouldn't know about the hardware in the glovebox, but I was old enough to know that when I saw my first 69 Z28 the summer of 69 I was hooked. Bought my first one used in 1975 for $1200.00



I was thinking maybe those screws were dealer installed. I really can't say if the factory installed them. That's something else to think about too I suppose.

The factory provided the screws (paper envelope license plate attaching unit, placed in the glove box), and the dealer prep guy installed them with the plate(s).
680  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Radio delete cover screws question. on: April 22, 2013, 04:34:12 AM
Thanks Jon. Those are great pics. Wow...that original washer would be hard to find but I probaby have some of the screws that size for substitutes in my bucket O' bolts. I thought maybe using the same screw that is used on the dash plate for the over the glovebox grab handle might work too.
681  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Battery Side post or top question on: April 22, 2013, 04:26:10 AM
Hi Kurt. Yeah...I read that. With my VIN and the 5/31/69 bulletin can I assum that my car had the side terminals? I always considered my car actually was built that first week in June. It's getting close to battery replacement for my car, so I'm thinking I'll replace cables and battery at the same time. Need opinions, should I or shouldn't I?


The changeover time is pretty clearly defined on the page, IMO.

http://www.camaros.org/underhood.shtml#Batteries

For LOS cars, the change to side post batteries occurred during the 05A week (cowl tag date). For NOR cars, it appears the change to the Y77 side post battery occurred in late April, while the R79 side post battery was used starting in early- to mid-May. (See the Battery Usage section for application information.)
682  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Battery Side post or top question on: April 21, 2013, 10:12:18 PM
I have a real early June car, 653104. Something to think about. I kind of like the side post type actually. Gives a nice clean look. I bet it would be hard to confirm if the cables were top or side post around that time period. Did the factory have a large supply of batteries and cables on hand? When was the battery installed? I'm assuming the cables were installed when the starter was installed?




My 06A RSZ28 has the original side post cables, it was made approx June 20, shipped June 23, ( Canadian Documentation). All June cars are 06A BTW. The original battery was a Y77 with different size terminal threads. My car had the original battery when I bought it, it has a Delco Replacement and I had to change 1 attachment bolt. I have a NOS Y77 battery for future use.



683  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front license plate bracket question. on: April 21, 2013, 10:05:17 PM
I was thinking maybe those screws were dealer installed. I really can't say if the factory installed them. That's something else to think about too I suppose.
684  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front license plate bracket question. on: April 21, 2013, 02:38:48 PM
Thanks Steve. Looking at the screws I wonder if that style was used exclusively or was there more than one style. The big head screw I see most of the time, the little head with washer like in your pic not so much.
685  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front license plate bracket question. on: April 21, 2013, 11:39:14 AM
Those are good pics. I can at least compare the reproduction one I have against the one I'm getting from Dannystarr. I'm thinking there won't really be that much difference between the two except maybe for the AAc stamping.
686  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Radio delete cover screws question. on: April 21, 2013, 11:34:03 AM
Not to be a pain in the rear, but a pic would help if you could manage it. I was just going to test fit a few screws smaller then the bore to see what would work. I really don't want to split it screwing in anything that is too wide. The 69 AIM page 34 UPC 1 B3 indicates part #9427601 but can't find a supplier to even see what it looks like. I have buckets of period hardware I can look thru to see if I have anything.



The screw threads are tighter, almost the width of a coarse thread bolt.
687  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Radio delete cover screws question. on: April 19, 2013, 11:12:38 PM
Thanks. Are the threads really wide on that screw? Kind of like a cork screw? Or are they tighter? I imagine any screw would work as long as it isn't too fat where it would crack the bosses.



I checked the screws from my original radio delete plate, the screw assembly is a  # 8-18 x 5/8 '' long,  5/16 hex head with rbw head markings, with a attached 5/8'' flat washer.
688  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front license plate bracket question. on: April 19, 2013, 08:39:23 PM
I'll have to wait until I get the plate before I can answer that, I haven't got it yet. I have a reproduction on my car now, so I can check it to see if there are any stampings on it.

I bought a front license plate bracket from member Dannystarr. He says it has the AAC on it but neither one of us was for sure if original GM. Thats why my post. ................

Gary,

  Do you think it was a reproduction font stamping? The stamping looked the same as the ones I posted.

Mike
689  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Radio delete cover screws question. on: April 19, 2013, 05:18:53 PM
Hey guys, anyone know what would be the screws needed to install the radio delete cover? I found a number in the 69 AIM and tried to find it on the AMK website and it is not listed. HBC don't offer the screws and washers by themselves either. I was thinking maybe the same screw that is used to attach the Camaro name plate with the grab bar on the dash over the glove box but the washers would be too small.
690  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Front license plate bracket question. on: April 19, 2013, 05:13:42 PM
When I joined ebay in 1999 it was really easy to find what you wanted to a specific vehicle. Now it seems there is so much trash stuff it takes hours to weed through it all. 1969 Camaro or 69 Camaro is all anyone would need to put in search and that was that. Heck, there are probably more auctions for the little gas and oil signs than anything else. I hate it. Ebay needs more filtering.


....  I wonder if it was used on any other vehicles besides the Z28. Ever notice how high prices are for Z28 parts? Man, these people are holding these parts hostage and asking ransom type money like we're all zillionaires. 
.. and there are a TON of parts 'misrepresented' to be '69 Z28' parts... on ebay.   Let the Buyer Beware!!  If you do a search for '69 Z28 original used parts'..  you get parts for Fords, GM back to 1928, etc..  Smiley  *Everyone puts '69 Z28' in as one of their keywords, regardless of what the part is for...
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